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    Player
    Arkh's Avatar
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    Mystical Kobi
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    Tonberry
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    Arcanist Lv 50

    BARD 2.1 change [requesting letter from the producer explanation]

    So this is what Yoshida said in the live letter:

    f; how about BRD?
    y; People were worried it was going to be nerfed a lot
    y; BRD is too useful taking over other jobs position
    y; No matter what content you go into, it can be used
    y; There was one thing that was brough over as additional that was too strong
    y; so we changed there
    y; silence is going to still be there so don’t worry




    ok so? Change to mobility? Change to songs?

    I really dont see the point of releasing part of the information and leaving us once again with doubt
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    Kaliga Moonshade
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    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 100
    They touched on this a little in the Part X letter, but it is still rather vague. My guess is we might end up losing Blood for Blood, internal release, or both based on what was said here. Either way, some clarification would be nice.
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    Raegen Beaumont
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    Spriggan
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 90
    additional is cross class skill. and the official translation only mentions changes to cross class skills. so say goodbye to either internal release or blood for blood to balance stuff
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    Bab Bie
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    Exodus
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    Archer Lv 50
    I just leveled my lancer to 34 today to get blood for blood and I absolutely hated playing melee. If they take away lancer's cross skills...

    Even worse if they give us another class's cross skill and now we have to go level another class to 34! not everyone has got the time in the world to level every class. I chose an archer because I hated melee just how many melee do I need to level to enjoy archer?! PUG and LNC is enough already. I hope they won't be giving archer another melee's cross skill to replace lancer's!

    Balance the game all you want but don't waste our time!! I'd rather have a pure dmg nerf if it's really needed!

    IF you are giving us another class's cross skill and take away LNC's ...please offer the option to convert a 34 LNC to 34 of whatever the new class is. No more leveling please. Thank you!
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    Last edited by Babie; 11-24-2013 at 03:10 AM.

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    Ketsu Wotaberu
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    Gilgamesh
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Probably internal release.
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    Gio Nazzo
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    Ultros
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    As most rational people expected, BRDs will likely only be losing access to a cross class skill or two. Like others have said, either Internal Release or Blood for Blood.


    Said this months ago when people were going nuclear over BRD nerfs. BRD will be fine.
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    Rose Wild
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    Cactuar
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    Archer Lv 80
    I would really like to know why Paladins din't get nerfed when people cried about it being way more useful than Warrior was, and now that people cry about Bard, we get nerfed and it will drop our damage by a HUGE amount when we already have to lower it when we use our Songs....
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    Hayk Farsight
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    Exodus
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rose-Wild View Post
    I would really like to know why Paladins din't get nerfed when people cried about it being way more useful than Warrior was, and now that people cry about Bard, we get nerfed and it will drop our damage by a HUGE amount when we already have to lower it when we use our Songs....
    Except Blood for Blood and Internal Release are not really necessary at all for us. I never got Blood For Blood until I had already beaten the story and got half of my Darklight gear and my Relic. Internal Release...all it really helps us with the most at endgame is the procs for Bloodletter, and that can get ridiculous sometimes. There have been a few times while I have had both Windbite and Venomous Bite up, over the course of 30 seconds Bloodletter had a proc after every single use of it. That can get ridiculous fast (and lead to some serious aggro gain).
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    Rose Wild
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    Archer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    Except Blood for Blood and Internal Release are not really necessary at all for us. I never got Blood For Blood until I had already beaten the story and got half of my Darklight gear and my Relic. Internal Release...all it really helps us with the most at endgame is the procs for Bloodletter, and that can get ridiculous sometimes. There have been a few times while I have had both Windbite and Venomous Bite up, over the course of 30 seconds Bloodletter had a proc after every single use of it. That can get ridiculous fast (and lead to some serious aggro gain).
    Are seriusly comparing what you need to beat the story and get DL gear with what you need to be competitive in Coil??? I mean even now we are below the damage of Blackmages and Monks, just think of how it will be if we lose this skills....
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    Rhaine Faithslight
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    Odin
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Rose-Wild View Post
    Are seriusly comparing what you need to beat the story and get DL gear with what you need to be competitive in Coil??? I mean even now we are below the damage of Blackmages and Monks, just think of how it will be if we lose this skills....
    Hate to tell you, bard is a support class :P

    They do have pretty great burst damage but yea overall dps on a long fight is generally much less.

    And like yoshi says, in endgame everyone takes atleast 1 bard because of how useful they are with songs, ranged silence is also nice.
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    Last edited by Rhained; 11-23-2013 at 10:49 PM.

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