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  1. #321
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    Curcio's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Tori Yasa
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    Mateus
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    Marauder Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Emblemelite View Post
    I love how you can just tell who in here is and isnt clearing Turn 5 on a a weekly basis. I bet 90% of the people saying RoD nerf isnt a big deal have never lived through a gigaflare on Twintania.
    Two things:

    1.) Warrior now gets a 10% damage reduction on one of its abilities, for nearly a quarter of the cost of RoD. RoD has effectively been moved to Warrior, helping out the "stack Paladin" situation.

    2.) Limit Break bars fill slower with stacked classes coming in 2.1. Combine this with #1 and bring a Paladin/Warrior combination into Twintania is a great idea, and quite needed.

    Yah, Bard was nerfed on that respect. But Twintania becoming harder to defeat because your RoD got nerfed isn't really the problem. If anything the Virus nerf is what's going to make DS more dangerous now.
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  2. #322
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    Sephir's Avatar
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    Sephir Elessendyl
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    Ragnarok
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    Lancer Lv 50
    1) not entirely true...Warrior got this buff after a combo and it's a single target skill. We had a direct AOE skill. Things are a little bit different. It was a huge skill when your healers or tank had problems even with big pulls of mobs.

    2) this is another stupid change they made...at least they could add after the first couple of members with the same class. It's not always easy to find a full variagated party.
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  3. #323
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    Sylari's Avatar
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    Asriel Blackthorne
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    Malboro
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by pandabearcat View Post
    Since it costs 200 TP, does like, 100 potency damage, i'm going to go with "hell no".
    That was my guess

    On the flipside then: Does the bard not having to worry about RoD uptime provide any meaningful improvement to their damage?
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  4. #324
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    Curcio's Avatar
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    Tori Yasa
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    Mateus
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    Marauder Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Sylari View Post
    That was my guess

    On the flipside then: Does the bard not having to worry about RoD uptime provide any meaningful improvement to their damage?
    Yup. I don't play Bard, but that's still 200TP kept in a Bard's pocket.

    Warrior becomes useful in a party composition, and Bard can focus on DPS.
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  5. #325
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    Bardo's Avatar
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    Bardo Phor
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    Sargatanas
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    Archer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Curcio View Post
    Yup. I don't play Bard, but that's still 200TP kept in a Bard's pocket.

    Warrior becomes useful in a party composition, and Bard can focus on DPS.
    "Focus on DPS" that just got nerfed even though it was already the lowest of any DD at endgame...
    That's not exactly a consolation prize that is going to make Bards feel any better about RoD.
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  6. #326
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    Cupcakesu's Avatar
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    Tomoyo Nellu
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    Sargatanas
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    Do the developers even know what they want to do with Bard at this point? Do they want us to DPS or do they want us to support?

    You can argue that Warriors taking our RoD utility allows us to DPS more, but they nerfed our DPS as well. So basically, they're nerfing our already-low damage and simultaneously removing utility and giving it to other classes. They claim that Bard holds "too many of the puzzle pieces", but what puzzle pieces do we have now? A silence and the ability to improve BLM DPS by 10%? Situational MP/TP songs that good parties typically don't need? How amazing.

    In a good end-game party, a Bard has nothing worth bringing to the table over other classes except a quick Silence and emergency MP.
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    Last edited by Cupcakesu; 12-15-2013 at 06:09 PM.

  7. #327
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    LaughingOctopus's Avatar
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    Spite Blade
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    Ragnarok
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    Marauder Lv 80
    Maybe the evasion down thing increase the critical hit chance? I am wishfully thinking that it would. Or maybe maybe in the future there will be some bosses that will increase their evasion like a buff so RoD will be useful.
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  8. #328
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    SirSaber's Avatar
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    Adelfia Balfegar
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    Ragnarok
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Cupcakesu View Post
    In a good end-game party, a Bard has nothing worth bringing to the table over other classes except a quick Silence and emergency MP.
    Yupp those are our superior Puzzle Pieces !

    I wish they've buffed our Songs though ...nerfing cross class buffs, removing RoD's sweet effect. It's a big nerf to us.

    But hey at least we didn't got nearly incapacitated like SMN (joking, though it's sad)
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