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  1. #81
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    Arkista Valentine
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    I don't care if SE is trying to keep the gap between Causal players and Hardcore players close. There is no point in put a WEEK LOCKOUT ON LOOT.

    They are messing up this game and its crap. I didn't pay to play this game a few hours a week. I wanted to level all my jobs to 50 run Crystal Tower with each one. I login for a few hours a week and that's it. It really is sad that SE is putting lockout on loot.

    Quote Originally Posted by SpookyGhost View Post
    Yes, your premade of 8. Which you can discuss who needs what gear for that week. Since your premade will all be in one group and each group gets their own loot chest, you'll get to decide amongst your group who gets what. Unless they decide that your premade randomly gets sorted into different groups... but that's yet to be confirmed or denied so.
    Who said that all loot would not be shared to the entire alliance? If loot was split into 3 different pools for the 3 8 man groups that defeats the entire purpose of 24man content doesn't it? Would be like oh hey we got fuma body on this side but only us 8 can lot on it and you other 16 players are SOL.
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    Last edited by Arkista; 12-05-2013 at 05:03 AM.

  2. #82
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    Kori Fleming
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkista View Post
    Who said that all loot would not be shared to the entire alliance? If loot was split into 3 different pools for the 3 8 man groups that defeats the entire purpose of 24man content doesn't it? Would be like oh hey we got fuma body on this side but only us 8 can lot on it and you other 16 players are SOL.
    Pretty sure Yoshi confirmed that each group of 8 gets a chest (or multiple chests) to split among their group. Possibly that's not true for the last boss if there are multiple chests since I assume the last boss will be a full on 24 man... but who knows. I don't have a link to the source or anything, though, so feel free to not believe me.
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  3. #83
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    Akira Ono
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkista View Post
    Who said that all loot would not be shared to the entire alliance? If loot was split into 3 different pools for the 3 8 man groups that defeats the entire purpose of 24man content doesn't it? Would be like oh hey we got fuma body on this side but only us 8 can lot on it and you other 16 players are SOL.
    Yoshi said this. Read the Dev letter from last week. Only your group of eight will see the chest and the loot it drops.
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  4. #84
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    Every group of 8 gets a chest? I am fine with that. Easier to deal with static groups and in a pickup, less issues arise with it this way.

    One week lockout? WHO THOUGHT OF THIS? GOOD GOD NO! Just NO!

    In a game where we were led to believe its best to forgo alts and have ONE character, having this type of lockout for anything less than the best (Coil) is a HUGE disastrous mistake. Being one step BELOW best gear this is what you run for your 3rd, 4th, 5th etc jobs!!! I am fully OK with lockouts on Coil, best gear in game needs it even if we dont like it. But anything under "The Best" needs to be at MOST 1 day lockout, and I am even leery of saying that would be acceptable!

    One item a week? Way to make the game die and lead to this being dead content and drive away a huge amount of people. Someone needs to slap some sense into someone and get this changed ASAP before its live.
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  5. #85
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    Gospel Gestalt
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    Hm, it would be kind of silly if they put a weekly lock out on loot for an ILV80 piece of gear if they're raising the mythology cap to 450.

    I mean you'd basically be able to buy a piece of ILV90 each week save for body, legs, and weapon but even then, you'd still get one of those every other week. So even if you did get the piece of gear you wanted from CT, you would more likely than not be replacing it the next week, granted you capped out your mythology every week.

    So with such a strict lockout, would CT gear even get all that much use to begin with? Just food for thought.
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  6. #86
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    Zok Kairgon
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    1 week for loot on CT?
    I... just.. I give up.

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  7. #87
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    Daeada Fehr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphyna View Post
    They're just killing their own game with these lockouts. Get item. Drop Party. Done for the week. Thanks SE!
    Quote Originally Posted by Arriverderci View Post
    We have a limit....and It's a week?
    Welp. 2.1 is a bust.
    They are holding us all back with these damn Lockouts.
    Stop limiting us on this friggin' game SE. We're paying for what exactly?
    Proof that people aren't looking for something to do, but instead something to get.

    People have been clamoring for Loot Lockout in Coil, instead of full lockout, so that they have something to entertain them, we get exactly that for CT and lo and behold it's not good enough.

    Hate to say it, but if you are looking for a game that will keep you entertained a full week when you refuse to do anything but the absolute top tier endgame and only if you personally can get a shiny out of it, MMOs are not for you. Maybe try something like League of Legends or DoTA?
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    Last edited by Djeserit; 12-05-2013 at 05:46 AM.

  8. #88
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    Celenir Istarkh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zezlar View Post
    Can already see it now. Player gets loot ---> drops because they have no further use of CT outside of the first clear.

    Ontop of the fact that it's going to be a mess in general since it's duty finder.
    This already happens all the time in World of Warcraft, and it didn't cause a problem because others would come in as replacements. In general, each player will want to take a whack at each boss for the loot, so those who drop at Boss2 will mean he was a replacement at Boss3 in a previous run, overall you will still have the same number of players participating.

    Towards the end of the content patch when most people have only the one or two pieces they still desperately need, you will have people ignoring later bosses, but that will happen regardless of how the loot is locked out. When they find no meaning in doing something, they will simply not do it.

    So in the end, this loot lockout system will not cause parties to fall apart, in fact, it helps with parties that do fall apart to quickly find replacements because people are entirely willing to join in-progress Crystal Tower parties. On the other hand, nobody wants to join in-progress Binding Coil parties because they would miss out on the loot from earlier parties (unless they no longer need anything from it, of course).

    The fact that each full party in CT gets their own loot, however, means that it is possible to sell CT runs with a premade. You are just not able to guarantee 100% wins on all bosses. But you can still sell gear.
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  9. #89
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    Liadan Summerfield
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    I'm actually more interested in knowing whether or not the loot lockout is for the entire raid or just on a per-boss basis (more like Coil).

    I can't see myself clearing the entire thing if I'm only able to get loot off of one boss per week or something.
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  10. #90
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    Sayura Ava
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zfz View Post
    This already happens all the time in World of Warcraft, and it didn't cause a problem because others would come in as replacements.
    You're assuming the Duty Finder is going to find a replacement. When someone drops in WP/AK the duty finder almost never replaces them and we have to quit/start over.
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