Crystal Tower Loot Lock Out how long?

[Zfz]

Can already see it now. Player gets loot ---> drops because they have no further use of CT outside of the first clear.

Ontop of the fact that it's going to be a mess in general since it's duty finder.

This already happens all the time in World of Warcraft, and it didn't cause a problem because others would come in as replacements. In general, each player will want to take a whack at each boss for the loot, so those who drop at Boss2 will mean he was a replacement at Boss3 in a previous run, overall you will still have the same number of players participating.

Towards the end of the content patch when most people have only the one or two pieces they still desperately need, you will have people ignoring later bosses, but that will happen regardless of how the loot is locked out. When they find no meaning in doing something, they will simply not do it.

So in the end, this loot lockout system will not cause parties to fall apart, in fact, it helps with parties that do fall apart to quickly find replacements because people are entirely willing to join in-progress Crystal Tower parties. On the other hand, nobody wants to join in-progress Binding Coil parties because they would miss out on the loot from earlier parties (unless they no longer need anything from it, of course).

The fact that each full party in CT gets their own loot, however, means that it is possible to sell CT runs with a premade. You are just not able to guarantee 100% wins on all bosses. But you can still sell gear.

[Sayura_]

This already happens all the time in World of Warcraft, and it didn't cause a problem because others would come in as replacements.

You're assuming the Duty Finder is going to find a replacement. When someone drops in WP/AK the duty finder almost never replaces them and we have to quit/start over.

[LiadansWhisper]

You're assuming the Duty Finder is going to find a replacement. When someone drops in WP/AK the duty finder almost never replaces them and we have to quit/start over.

It will replace them if you wait long enough. The thing is, people have to check the "Join Party in Progress" option when they queue for them to join you.

[Sayura_]

It will replace them if you wait long enough. The thing is, people have to check the "Join Party in Progress" option when they queue for them to join you.

Yeahhh, we waited 30 minutes once, cleared AK to the end boss and a tank never joined. I'd say waiting long enough isn't an option for small servers.

[Orophin]

Who cares? You can only coil once per week. A whole group of 7 people can do one carry for one person. That's like literally nothing. It'll have absolutely no impact on the economy.

Not sure why you quoted me? I was just explaining how it was done, not debating the economical impact (or lack thereof, unless it promotes gil buying) of it.

[Zfz]

You're assuming the Duty Finder is going to find a replacement. When someone drops in WP/AK the duty finder almost never replaces them and we have to quit/start over.

It's hard to find replacements in WP/AK because people don't use the join in-progress option.

It won't be hard to find replacements in CT because people will use the join in-progress option.

Why? Because other pepole will drop half-way, forcing some alliances to disband. Those who disbanded will not mind joining in-progress because there's no point joining fresh. So as more groups disband half-way, more people will join in-progress, so replacements are easier to find, and less people will drop half-way.

Yes it's optimistic, but it's optimistic based on the fact that CT is inherently different to WP/AK. That difference needs to be considered when we look at the replacement situation in CT.