Crystal Tower Loot Lock Out how long?

[Arkista]

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Q: Will progress be recorded in the Crystal Tower the same way as in the Binding Coil?

A: Progress will not be recorded. However, we'll be updating the Crystal Tower every other patch just like the Binding Coil of Bahamut, and you'll need to clear the Labyrinth of the Ancients that is to be implemented in patch 2.1 in order to take on the next phase in patch 2.3. The areas we implement in patch 2.1 will not have mid-way progress points, so you'll be able to challenge this dungeon without restriction. However, there is a limitation when it comes to receiving gear drops, and once you cast lots and obtain an item, your rights to lot gear will be lost. Once the timer for lotting resets you'll be able to lot on drops again.

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However, there is a limitation when it comes to receiving gear drops, and once you cast lots and obtain an item, your rights to lot gear will be lost. Once the timer for lotting resets you'll be able to lot on drops again.


How long is the reset timer?

I planned on playing multiple jobs for Crystal Tower since it wasn't going to have a weekly lock out after you finish it. If the Reset is more than 12hrs its going to be crap.

Also I don't see why there should be any Lock Out on looting, The gear is ilvl80 so why should there be a lock out?

If the Lock Out is an hour or you can only lot once per run that's fine with me.

See, this is what I want to happen to Coil...let us keep running it, but lock out loot once we get something in a Turn.

Even if its still a weekly loot-lock out, I'd be happy. I just want to run it.

This can't happen to CoB as of now (when Turn6+ happen it can). People would sell the best gear in the Game so I see why there is a weekly lock out as for CT gear its ilvl80 there is no need for a lock out for more than an hour or per run.

[Noahlimits]

Obviously since that newsletter was the first we've heard of it, nobody knows. It hasn't been stated yet.

I also LOL that people are already complaining. So many times I've heard people complaining about coil since they can't 'help FC members run it', and claiming they 'don't even need gear drops', they just want to help. And people are already complaining that they can run it as much as they want but have a lock out on gear for x amount of time.

I understand the need for gear lock out. Full i80 should be able to take down Twintania from what I've read. It's a artificial game barrier (like myth cap) that I can understand. They don't want everyone with gear that can take down Twintania (in theory, you still need to not be derpy) after one day of dungeon spamming. We should all just be happy there isn't a lock out on the dungeon itself.

This is why we can't have nice things.

[Arkista]

Obviously since that newsletter was the first we've heard of it, nobody knows. It hasn't been stated yet.

I also LOL that people are already complaining. So many times I've heard people complaining about coil since they can't 'help FC members run it', and claiming they 'don't even need gear drops', they just want to help. And people are already complaining that they can run it as much as they want but have a lock out on gear for x amount of time.

I understand the need for gear lock out. Full i80 should be able to take down Twintania from what I've read. It's a artificial game barrier (like myth cap) that I can understand. They don't want everyone with gear that can take down Twintania (in theory, you still need to not be derpy) after one day of dungeon spamming. We should all just be happy there isn't a lock out on the dungeon itself.

This is why we can't have nice things.

I'm 3 pieces from all ilvl90 so I could care less if a group of full ilvl80s could take down T5, When people with ilvl70 have been doing it. It would be nice to help others with CoB but I know the reason why SE wont put a lotting lock out on coils is because people would sell gear and then everyone would be in ilvl90 in no time.

I'm only complaining if the lock out is going to be to long. I have nothing to do in the game I log in a few hours a week do coils/cap myth and done. But I decided a few weeks ago that I would slowly level all jobs to 50, Then I would be able to do CT with all jobs and gear them out in ilvl80 to hold me over until 2.2 comes out next year.
But if the lock out is going to be 12hrs+ then looks like I wont be playing the game as long as I'd like to.

[Noahlimits]

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That sounds like an individual problem. Let's say the lock out is 24 hours; 7 pieces a week of i80 for an alt sounds pretty darn good. You can (with lucky drops) fully gear out an alt in 10-11 days. Why do you need to have end game gear for all your alts at a moment's notice? How is that (assuming it's around 24 hours) not amazing and time efficient?

I also haven't seen one post where the majority of the people weren't wearing at least 3-4 pieces of i90 to beat twintania (which would essentially put their gear average ilevel just below 80). Crafted i70 with materia (essentially making it closer to i80 than i70) doesn't count.

The lock out stuff is so people just dont breeze over the little content there is. For some of us the Game is a Monday only game which sucks. And the trolls for this are gonna be horrible. people are just gonna leave the duty once they get what they need.

Considering you get both kinds of tomes from it, I know I'll be doing that right away (and it would make sense to do CT the first thing you do when you play after a reset to get an i80 AND Myth Tomes). And as long as the reward of tomes at the end of the dungeon isn't crap, most people will finish the dungeon simply for that.

[Sotek]

Considering you get both kinds of tomes from it, I know I'll be doing that right away (and it would make sense to do CT the first thing you do when you play after a reset to get an i80 AND Myth Tomes). And as long as the reward of tomes at the end of the dungeon isn't crap, most people will finish the dungeon simply for that.

See, this really wastes the content they do have... Rather than giving people Mythology farming, Crystal Tower and Coil, they've decided to lump Mythology farming with everything. I never particularly enjoyed running the dungeons over and over, but it at least had its place. Now? Well, knowing my luck I'll cap Mythology before getting anything in Crystal Tower, without even touching Coil, and that isn't factoring in things like Dailies (which are hopefully just Philosophy). Dungeons literally seem to be for the casuals alone now... People who aren't geared, or in a group, to challenge Crystal Tower or Coil... Glad they get some variation at least...

This is why I hate the Mythology cap, not because I'm against the notion of a cap in the first place, but because the cap is so ridiculously easy to reach. If they made Mythology harder to get by halving the number you get from everything, OK people would probably be annoyed, but at least they'd (currently) be playing twice as long. I'd much rather complain that the cap is too hard to reach and I occasionally don't reach it as a result, than complain that it takes a single day to be done with the whole thing... This will be twice they've made it easier to cap, which is the complete wrong direction to take, though I guess it can at least partially be balanced out with the cap rise, maybe it wont be so bad and Crystal Tower will drop similar amounts to Primals though...

[KoujiGeki]

Obviously since that newsletter was the first we've heard of it, nobody knows. It hasn't been stated yet.

I also LOL that people are already complaining. So many times I've heard people complaining about coil since they can't 'help FC members run it', and claiming they 'don't even need gear drops', they just want to help. And people are already complaining that they can run it as much as they want but have a lock out on gear for x amount of time.

I understand the need for gear lock out. Full i80 should be able to take down Twintania from what I've read. It's a artificial game barrier (like myth cap) that I can understand. They don't want everyone with gear that can take down Twintania (in theory, you still need to not be derpy) after one day of dungeon spamming. We should all just be happy there isn't a lock out on the dungeon itself.

This is why we can't have nice things.

The lock out stuff is so people just dont breeze over the little content there is. For some of us the Game is a Monday only game which sucks. And the trolls for this are gonna be horrible. people are just gonna leave the duty once they get what they need.

[Arkista]

The lock out stuff is so people just dont breeze over the little content there is. For some of us the Game is a Monday only game which sucks. And the trolls for this are gonna be horrible. people are just gonna leave the duty once they get what they need.

This! If the lock out is more than an 1-2 Hours then Crystal Tower will FAIL! IDK how the dungeons are ran yet but I'm pretty sure there will be gear otw to the end. A lot of people will come in get the gear they need/want if they win and leave.

Crystal Tower has a 2 hour time limit per run. Wouldn't expect the looting lockout to last longer than that.

I say this because I vaguely recall hearing that players will probably receive one piece of loot per run.

Lets hope it won't be more than the run itself.

[Size]

Looks like another content stall tactic. Without it, I suppose people would spam it and get all the gear in 48 hours and then have to wait months until the vanity slot utility to even use it, since they would already have 90 gear most likely.

[Dorin]

Oh come on what the heck? More lockouts? I hope it's a short one, like you said.

[PArcher]

See, this is what I want to happen to Coil...let us keep running it, but lock out loot once we get something in a Turn.

Even if its still a weekly loot-lock out, I'd be happy. I just want to run it.