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    Yeah, the restriction better only apply to the run you're currently in and wear off the instant you leave.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Curagaja View Post
    Yeah, the restriction better only apply to the run you're currently in and wear off the instant you leave.
    Yes, so people can spam it 50 times in the first week, have all the gear, then rage about "nothing to do".

    Award-winning idea, this one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Djeserit View Post
    Yes, so people can spam it 50 times in the first week, have all the gear, then rage about "nothing to do".

    Award-winning idea, this one.
    better than people quitting because they can only play the game one day a week. i would rather gear be like the original in 1.0 with a short 15 min lockout after completion and a low drop rate than the current design.
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkstarpoet1 View Post
    better than people quitting because they can only play the game one day a week. i would rather gear be like the original in 1.0 with a short 15 min lockout after completion and a low drop rate than the current design.
    No, its not better than ppl getting all the gear in 2 days then quitting because they have nothing to do, not just one thing to do per X time.

    The gap between content updates is going to be smaller form here on out, so forced pacing won't be as necessary (hence no lockout on the dungeon runs).

    EVERY MMO UNDER THE SUN has some kind of lockouts or limits on content to prevent the content from being "used up" faster than they can develop it. It is useless to complain about it as if it's only something that happens in this game and that people quit because of it, because it just isn't true. If you don't like it here, you won't like it in any other MMO in existence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    No, its not better than ppl getting all the gear in 2 days then quitting because they have nothing to do, not just one thing to do per X time.

    The gap between content updates is going to be smaller form here on out, so forced pacing won't be as necessary (hence no lockout on the dungeon runs).

    EVERY MMO UNDER THE SUN has some kind of lockouts or limits on content to prevent the content from being "used up" faster than they can develop it. It is useless to complain about it as if it's only something that happens in this game and that people quit because of it, because it just isn't true. If you don't like it here, you won't like it in any other MMO in existence.
    Please tell me how many major mmos have WEEK LONG lockouts? with ~18 items in a loot table?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sayura_ View Post
    Please tell me how many major mmos have WEEK LONG lockouts? with ~18 items in a loot table?
    For end game content? Many of them actually. Even WoW does. Many major raids/end game content in mmo's have a week long lockout. In a fact a week is standard and usually the lockout ends on the weekly maintenance day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reslin View Post
    For end game content? Many of them actually. Even WoW does. Many major raids/end game content in mmo's have a week long lockout. In a fact a week is standard and usually the lockout ends on the weekly maintenance day.
    Except we don't have a normal weekly maintenance, we have maintenance whenever the Japanese have problems, and then SE says the heck to Na/Eu players we have to cater to our people and make the game appealing to them. :c
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    Quote Originally Posted by Djeserit View Post
    Yes, so people can spam it 50 times in the first week, have all the gear, then rage about "nothing to do".

    Award-winning idea, this one.
    Much better idea than one piece of gear per real life day. Not everyone is okay with paying $10-$15 to play for 2-3 hours a week for a month because they literally can't progress due to a physical restriction set in place by the game developers.

    You must be the kind of person that likes to be limited to gain an artificial feeling of longevity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Curagaja View Post
    Much better idea than one piece of gear per real life day. Not everyone is okay with paying $10-$15 to play for 2-3 hours a week for a month because they literally can't progress due to a physical restriction set in place by the game developers.

    You must be the kind of person that likes to be limited to gain an artificial feeling of longevity.
    What's wrong with one piece of gear per day? I feel like that's a lot. There'll be other stuff to do in the game in the meantime when the patch hits, too. Granted, it's all story and no i90 gear, but if that's all you're after, your end game life will always be boring.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Curagaja View Post
    Not everyone is okay with paying $10-$15 to play for 2-3 hours a week for a month because they literally can't progress due to a physical restriction set in place by the game developers.

    You must be the kind of person that likes to be limited to gain an artificial feeling of longevity.
    I think you mean figuratively, because you can progress just fine on alt classes. Maybe not to i90 gear, but you can still do other non end-game things.

    That is, unless you have every class at 50, all combat in full DL, all relic +1, all crafters/gatherers in overmelded HQ class gear. If you have all that, and every achievement (which you don't) then you still have options. You just make a choice to focus on only 1 aspect of the game.

    Edit:

    Lets do this by numbers. There's 6 different sets of gear that will drop, each containing 12 pieces at most.

    6*12 = 72 pieces of gear

    They want CT to last approximately 3 months, or ~90 days, until patch 2.2 comes out and gives us more "true endgame".

    ... 1 piece every 30 hours.

    The shortest logical cooldown on CT gear would be 30 hours. It will most likely be 36 or 48. Possibly even longer because they don't expect (or want) anyone to farm all 6 sets in 3 months.

    However we know there's only 4-5 bosses, per what Yoshi said in the Live Letter.

    72 pieces of gear / 4 bosses = 18 items in each bosses loot pool

    That's not going to happen.

    Now, let's flip it to the conservative side, and say 5 pieces per set (the visible, non-weapon slots).

    30 pieces of gear total, 2160/30 = 1 piece every 72 hours.

    This number is much more logical (and more likely), but I would say anywhere between 36-72 hour lockout on gear is acceptable.
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    Last edited by Djeserit; 12-04-2013 at 12:29 PM.

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