Coil mode for main story

[EvokerKeii]

I just checked YouTube. There's a turn 1 full run with cutscenes. I'm on a phone so I can't copy the URL from the app but I know it's there. Turn 2 through 4 have no story.
I haven't beaten turn 5 yet so I'm not trying to spoil it for myself by finding a video for you.

[KenzieLynch]

I just checked YouTube. There's a turn 1 full run with cutscenes. I'm on a phone so I can't copy the URL from the app but I know it's there. Turn 2 through 4 have no story.
I haven't beaten turn 5 yet so I'm not trying to spoil it for myself by finding a video for you.

Do you really want to be the guy who uses that argument? that we should just go to YouTube?

If so then I'll just end the discussion here. I'm flat out uninterested in any person who thinks that's a viable debate. (just an FYI, i'm on Turn 4. It doesn't change my viewpoint on the matter)

[Myrhn]

You get the "story mode" "easy mode" in a couple of months when they tone it down. Happy now?

[Faedden]

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We can disagree until the cows come home. I get that somethings are harder for others so they can either A. Get better. B. Give up. C. YouTube. D. Wait until the nerf hammer comes when newer content comes out. All of that is find and dandy if it was the main story line buut it's not. It's optional I know at the end of the day I don't get to decide if there's going to be a story mode or not. I just hope they don't do it >_>
Everything isn't for everyone.

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You don't want things handed to you but you want the Bahamut storyline handed to you? You say you don't want rewards with out work, the story is the reward and you asking for a easy mode is the "with out the work" since it's an optional raid story. You got to work to complete it. It's been said numerous times that, that story line and raid is optional I understand you want to see it, because that's what you do in games the "easy mode" will come out before you know it

[EvokerKeii]

Do you really want to be the guy who uses that argument? that we should just go to YouTube?

If so then I'll just end the discussion here. I'm flat out uninterested in any person who thinks that's a viable debate. (just an FYI, i'm on Turn 4. It doesn't change my viewpoint on the matter)

I am providing people with their current options, rather than just complaining about how I want it to be because I don't like how it is. Which gets everyone exactly nowhere.

[Sunarie]

We can disagree until the cows come home. I get that somethings are harder for others so they can either A. Get better. B. Give up. C. YouTube. D. Wait until the nerf hammer comes when newer content comes out. All of that is find and dandy if it was the main story line buut it's not. It's optional I know at the end of the day I don't get to decide if there's going to be a story mode or not. I just hope they don't do it >_>
Everything isn't for everyone.

Disagreeing is fine.. and I do agree that everything isn't for everyone. Which is why I would be against top tier gear or achievements being awarded for not top tier raids. I would like to know though, why are you against story mode versions of dungeons? If you recognize that it's still going to be a challenge for people, and therefore it's not a free handout, why be against it completely? That's the part I'm failing to understand, and am not really seeing argued. If it's as simple as believing that the story should only really be completed by the select few that have the skill to complete the hardest content in the game, then that's fine and it's your opinion. Not one I share, but to each their own.

I see people offering solutions as to how to get the cutscene (IE Youtube, grinding, "L2P", or waiting for a nerf).. but those aren't why the thing shouldn't be included, so much as solutions to not viewing the cutscenes that don't really fit the mentality of people who can't access them.

Edited to add: For Final Fantasy lore buffs. Bahamut storyline is a "main" storyline. Regardless of where anyone feels the main storyline should have ended. There can be multiple "main" storylines to a game. One picking up after a different has ended.

[TrystWildkey]

The "you guys" is more directed at the people ASKING for it. I don't think that my way is the only/right way. I was using my self as an example. The role player, lore lover, etc. How I put my big girl pants on and learned how to get better to do whatever to finish the story. And the fact is, they just want things handed to them I mean let's be real. NO ONE likes to do things in games they don't want too and it's stuff like that in almost every game. This generation of gamers now just think they are so special they don't have too and they can just demand it or threaten to leave/quit

I don't know how I missed that twice. Gotta work for the storyline that's the point of games! To become the hero and work hard to save the world. Idk why people think the story line isn't part of the rewards...it is.

I'm 37, been playing games for a long time. I know what my limitations are, and generally don't choose games that are above my skill level.

I'm not demanding, I saw a thread that had an idea that I liked and voiced my support for it. I've also not threatened to quit. I don't plan to quit, I'm enjoying the game the way I play it.

Gotta work for the storyline. Yeah, I know, that's what I've been doing.

But, the reason I keep coming back to defend my position is this:

The MAIN storyline, is walled behind (pay attention, here is the very important point) The. Hardest. Available. Content. In. The. Entire. Game.

Everything I've gone through so far has been challenging, and yes, hard for me. I haven't asked for anything else to be 'nerfed' or reduced in difficulty, or handed to me.

I'm only stating that I think it is a great idea, and I would like to see an alternative story mode for finishing the lore/storyline with Bahamut. An alternative to what it currently is, which is THE HARDEST AVAILABLE CONTENT IN THE GAME.

[KenzieLynch]

I am providing people with their current options, rather than just complaining about how I want it to be because I don't like how it is. Which gets everyone exactly nowhere.

Seriously? 2 pages of discussion to try and get your actual theory on the matter and it turns out you want to tell me I can watch a video on youtube?

I don't know whether to envy you for how simple it must be to live in that head or jump out the nearest window in despair for humanity. What an absolute waste of time. We're done here.

[HaiHai]

I don't care about the gear rewards in Coil. I don't care about the status that comes with clearing the hardest content. I want the storyline content only. That's why I'd like a story-mode coil. Walling off the main storyline behind the hardest possible content does not make sense.



I think you're not reading my whole posts. I don't want the rewards. I want the lore experience. -snip-

Sad that you believe gear is the only reward to be had in Coil. I guess you really aren't a raider.

There is so much more to raid rewards than gear. Finishing the story, downing the bosses, working through the challenging fights, and the satisfaction of defeating the highest and often hardest level of content are all rewards in their own rights. And rewards aren't rewarding if you have to put in zero effort to receive them.

[Alhanelem]

If FFXIV was initially released as it is now, I would NOT have played it.

I think you keep missing the following point: 1.0 and 1.23 were perfect for me. SE roped me in to their story and I want to see the rest of it. That's why I am asking for an easy or story mode.

So you're saying you don't want your games to be challenging?

Seriously is the game really that hard in the first place?

There is a story mode. It's called the main scenario. if you can't beat it... well, its time to retire from video games. Beyond that, I"m not really sure what you're talking about. You say 1.23 was fine for you, but the story battles in that game were just as hard if not harder than what we have now. So your case doesn't make any sense and I don't believe you for a second if you said you wouldn't have played ARR if it was the original version.

The MAIN storyline, is walled behind (pay attention, here is the very important point) The. Hardest. Available. Content. In. The. Entire. Game.

The MAIN story line is not walled behind any hard content whatsoever. The Binding Coil of Bahamut is NOT the main story. It is a secondary, additional story accessible after beating the ACTUAL main story. And despite it being the "hardest content in the game." it is not really so hard once you take the time to learn it.

Honestly it's pretty sad that we're not allowed to have challenging video games anymore because of people who can't handle a good fun challenge. Whats sad is this game doesn't even come close to representing the hardest out there. go play any game in any video arcade in japan and they will stomp you into oblivion.

I do NOT play this game all day every day. I do not consider myself a pro MMO player. But given enough time I was able to clear most of Coil. Given some time I was able to beat titan without being carried. You CAN beat it. Stop begging for an easy mode and just learn the fights.

People also seem to forget that it is inevitable that when new hard content comes out, the old hard content either naturally becomes easier / is nerfed and more accessible to people who were stuck before. If you've made your good faith effort to win and you still can't, just wait for the inevitable nerf. We don't need a special carebear mode, the game will get naturally easier over time.