2.1 Steel Cyclone, Not Enough

[Phreak]

I think for SC to ever see real use it would need some sort of damage management buff/debuff that increases in benefit the more mobs it hits, scaling so when you hit say 4+ mobs it outshines Inner Beast's DR.

EDIT:
Steel Cyclone
Delivers an attack with a potency of 200 to all nearby enemies and reduces damage taken by 5% for 2 seconds, reduce damage taken by an additional 5% (up to 15%) and increase duration by 2 (up to 8) seconds for each enemy hit beyond the first. Ignores the 35% damage penalty inflicted by Defiance. Can only be executed when Infuriated. All Wrath is lost when used. Additional Effect: Increased Enmity.

(A)
Overpower
Delivers an attack with a potency of 120 to all enemies in a cone before you. 50% chance to grant Wrath when used with Defiance. Chance to grant Wrath is increased by 5% for each enemy hit beyond the first up to an additional 20%. Duration: 30s.
Additional Effect: Increased enmity.

OR

(B)
Overpower
Delivers an attack with a potency of 120 to all enemies in a cone before you. 15% Chance your next Steel Cyclone can be executed without being Infuriated. Duration: 10s.
Additional Effect: Increased enmity.

The stacking buff for Steel Cyclone would have a cap. Totals would come out to 20% DR and 10s Duration.

Overpower would have a 70% chance on use to grant Wrath @ 5+ enemies.

This would probably be the easiest way to balance the 2 albeit it's a little wordy and follows the same plain DR buff.

Please don't take these % as fact, it's just an idea. Giving it a base % and a % on mob hit gives them 2 sides to balance this ability from.

[mythicrose]

EDIT:
reduce damage taken by an additional 5% and increase duration by 2 seconds for each additional enemy hit.

While it may not be breaking for endgame raids, your proposed additonal 5% defense and 2 second length per mob would be almost too powerful for 4 man content. As an expample warrior in WP could pull to the first bug "ambush", hit SC and approach a 100% damage reduction for nearly 30 seconds (sorry can't remember exactly how many bugs spawn there). The effect would still be going as the next next two groups could be easily pulled within that time frame. I'm not saying your idea is bad, but the added conditional would be too good for the small man stuff.

That's why in later posted we added in a cap to it's benefit, ill edit my first post.

I must've missed that post. Found it. Definately would need to cap it, though.

Bring back the heal on critical and the stun. The only thing broken about 1.0 cyclone was the damage.

I would like that, too.

[Phreak]

While it may not be breaking for endgame raids, your proposed additonal 5% defense and 2 second length per mob would be almost too powerful for 4 man content. As an expample warrior in WP could pull to the first bug "ambush", hit SC and approach a 100% damage reduction for nearly 30 seconds (sorry can't remember exactly how many bugs spawn there). The effect would still be going as the next next two groups could be easily pulled within that time frame. I'm not saying your idea is bad, but the added conditional would be too good for the small man stuff.

That's why in later posts we added in a cap to it's benefit, ill edit my first post.

[LunaChild]

I like this idea

Overpower
Delivers an attack with a potency of 120 to all enemies in a cone before you. 20% Chance your next Steel Cyclone can be executed without being Infuriated. Duration: 10s.
Additional Effect: Increased Enmity

and perhaps modify SC like this
Steel Cyclone
Delivers an attack with a potency of 150 to all nearby enemies. Ignores the 35% damage penalty inflicted by Defiance. Can only be executed when Infuriated. Consume all Wrath when used.
Additional Effect: Increase potency by 20 for each Wrath consumed. Increased Enmity.

[Phreak]

I like this idea

Steel Cyclone
Delivers an attack with a potency of 150 to all nearby enemies. Ignores the 35% damage penalty inflicted by Defiance. Can only be executed when Infuriated. Consume all Wrath when used.
Additional Effect: Increase potency by 20 for each Wrath consumed. Increased Enmity.

Maybe for the DPS version of MRD but as a tank I'm not looking to do extra damage I'm looking to take less damage, the whole point of the original suggestions were to put Steel Cyclone on an equal or a slightly better level than Inner Beast (in 2.1) when presented with multiple targets to hit/tank. So that were not spending our stacks in almost every single tanking scenario on Inner Beast while making a lackluster ability feel useful again.