Battle Reform Blueprint

[Teknoman]

There is still a lot of oversight still in place that it's still a zerg rush even with the FF11-2 swing. We still have a stupidly powerful anything -> Anything BR, we still have a stupidly low curve of player con vs enemy con, we still have a stupidly easy faster HP/MP regen + the the cross classing skill on the fly system, and a host of other "easy win" options.

Sure, but arent they supposed to change the effectiveness of skills/enemy stats/enemy type distributions, and by association change the difficulty of the game as a whole? The regen rate when in passive/rest mode might even be adjusted along with that for all we know. Same with classes being rebalanced/restricted in certain ways. What i'm saying is, what Yoshi-P and Matsui indicated, alot of those "easy win" scenarios are being totally changed.

[kukurumei]

Sure, but arent they supposed to change the effectiveness of skills/enemy stats/enemy type distributions, and by association change the difficulty of the game as a whole? The regen rate when in passive/rest mode might even be adjusted along with that for all we know. Same with classes being rebalanced/restricted in certain ways. What i'm saying is, what Yoshi-P and Matsui indicated, alot of those "easy win" scenarios are being totally changed.

I think that's being a little too optimistic at this point. Their track record haven't been good in this area.

After all this is the same people that gave us text menu quests, aggro icons, and level numbers, while also suggesting hate meters, etc.

I for one am on the "I'll see it when I see it" when it comes to thing related to "difficulty" and depth.

[Rustyhagun]

Where are you guys getting that rank 30 is when the jobs unlock? Just a guess or did I miss something? If that's the case I already have everything at 20+ and need to get cracking on hitting 30.

I'm just reading everything now, but too respond. I believe, because they are implementing the two dungeons (1 @lvl30 and 1 @lvl50) and Yoshi has the battle new system planned around the dungeon concept (for the most part). We can assume, that level 30 or even lower can be a guesstimate, to where the Job quests will begin, as we will have to learn our new roles and get used to them, and the lvl 30 dungeon being the first place where we would first get the practice.

A lot of us( the hard cores that have played non stop) are thinking Job quests are only going to start unlocking at lvl 50 but that's kinda of silly to think that because not everyone has a lvl 50 only a minority do, with most of the majority being between 20 and 38 (give or take), with this logic we can assume Yoshi will have the new jobs ready too acquire at a low to mid range lvl, as he would want us to grow in experience with them, also there being quests to gain various abilities solely for those jobs.

Having all that only at level 50 is not spreading the content thin, which is what they want to do, so not to bore the remainder of the population.

[Malakhim]

Why would jobs unlock at rank 50? These aren't merit points we're talking about. Or is it because you all have multiple classes at rank 50 already? If that's the case, then good for you. There are other players to be concerned about.

Not only that, but the whole reason jobs are being implemented(as per Matsui's original post) is to give people clearly defined party roles. Are you guys trying to tell people that they should just solo their way until they become "party-ready" at rank 50?

[Firon]

I like how everyone thinks they know how the battle system and job system is gonna actually be like but when all we know is small hints and stuff.

[Malakhim]

I like how everyone thinks they know how the battle system and job system is gonna actually be like but when all we know is small hints and stuff.

If I could like this post 20 times, I would.

You sir are my favorite poster already.

[Anty]

I like how everyone thinks they know how the battle system and job system is gonna actually be like but when all we know is small hints and stuff.

its like everyone though the added quests are gonne be great lol

[Malakhim]

its like everyone though the added quests are gonne be great lol

At least it's content we already have access to and thus can critique intelligently.

Right now everyone's just stabbing in the dark with earmuffs and a blindfold on.

[Betelgeuzah]

It's how everyone thinks

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If it's up to us, only imagination is the limit. SE doesn't have that luxury.

[Firon]

its like everyone though the added quests are gonne be great lol

Actually i never thought side quest was gonna be awesome cause XI quest was hardly good they just a few awesome ones here and there and people start wearing their nostalgia goggles.

I logged into my G/f char today on XI because me and her did all the same quest which is like over 500+ went down the list like 20 of them was actually interesting that was none af quest.