24 man content DOA

[Wobi]

We need to be proactive and decisive about our needs and generate solutions in dialogue with developers about what works, what doesn't work, and what's possible. Why even have this forum at all if that's not the purpose, to make our concerns known? If our concerns prove false, then what's the worst that happens? Are we causing harm by saying how we feel? Seeing as these discussions have no negative impact, you are not justified in coming on the board and saying that we are not justified in our concerns.

While I agree with many of your points quite of few of these posts are speculative, the sky is falling business. Those types of posts *do* cause harm. However I can see why the devs made the decisions they did, for the greater bulk of the FFXIV community. Just because some of us have large FC's and well geared tight-knit groups to steamroll through this others do not. They are adding incentives not to troll with MIP and vote-kick, which should alleviate some of these issues.

[YuriRamona]

While I agree with many of your points quite of few of these posts are speculative, the sky is falling business. Those types of posts *do* cause harm. However I can see why the devs made the decisions they did, for the greater bulk of the FFXIV community. Just because some of us have large FC's and well geared tight-knit groups to steamroll through this others do not. They are adding incentives not to troll with MIP and vote-kick, which should alleviate some of these issues.

Of course speculative posts are incredibly alarmist and carry a 'sky-is-falling' mentality. Players will ramp up / exaggerate their concern to get feedback when they feel they are not being heard (as is the case right now for most angry posters).

While MIP and Vote-kick will help, it won't solve the problem. That's mostly the issue here - is that SE recognizes and has responded to many of the issues (trolls, griefers, AFKers) but only promised a partial solution. I say partial because the angry posters here can see that the obvious/glaring/clear full solution - 24-person alliance formation support, and believe (reasonably or not) that it should be easy to implement.