24 man content DOA

[Riv]

why would you even do CT when it drops inferior gear anyway?

[Beetle]

Tanaka has full ally in the first HNM patch of 14 and yoshi team cant do it? Something going wrong.

[OmegaBlack]

Gear inferior idc.. im. The type of guys that love content big or small, for me its about the experience. Yeah i also love endgame but those dungeon always give u the funnest.Then there the fact that dev team put there hard work and time to make it,like manor looks cool as hell but the instant was meh but i can say that cuz i played throught it and have a opinion about it.i plan on playing this game for a long time so ill do all the content that they threw at us,but sadly next update wont be untill sometime around E3 i mean after Dec 17 that is

[Dashuto]

If you guys arent going to do it because the gear is inferior, then why do you care if its 8 or 24 man.

Also you do realize this will probably apply to Extreme Primals right?

I still dont understand why anyone ever thought it would be anything but 8+8+8. When have you ever been allowed to make a 24 man party since the game launched?

Most FC's I see on my legacy server dont even -have- more than 20 people. I'm feeling like its a very vocal minority spamming these topics.

[Murugan]

If no one at Square Enix for some reason can figure out how to code forming an alliance in the game then just postpone launching the content. This is ridiculous.

Probably the worst example of incompetence from an MMO developer I've seen in a game I have played other than 1.0 itself.

If you guys arent going to do it because the gear is inferior, then why do you care if its 8 or 24 man.

Also you do realize this will probably apply to Extreme Primals right?

I still dont understand why anyone ever thought it would be anything but 8+8+8. When have you ever been allowed to make a 24 man party since the game launched?

Most FC's I see on my legacy server dont even -have- more than 20 people. I'm feeling like its a very vocal minority spamming these topics.

Considering every other 2 bit MMO studio can figure out how to allow people to form alliances I don't know maybe we thought SE could too.

CRAZY

[Skinwalker]

@OP

Yeah man I'm in the same boad. I'm always FORCED to let ppl behind when we're doing coil since its an 8 man dungeon and often we're 20-21 ppl online.... Now may big hope was that they add CT for a full 24 man run so we can have some fun together but SE just slaped in our faces ... That was really a bummer... Not sure what SE was thinking about fooling their memeber (yeah I mean fooling!) They promised us 24 man content and added an 8 man content where 3 pt (random) pts can join .... I'm really dissapointed ...

[Dashuto]

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CRAZY

What are you going on about? When was it ever said they couldn't figure out how to make an alliance? Of course they can do that, they deliberately chose not to. We had 18 man alliance in 11 and it was no problem. They -want- people to DF. The non DF content is Bahamuts Coil, which they did mention will be extended in the future.

Stop making things up, yes they could make 24 man non DF a thing if they wanted to, its easily within their skill. But that is not their plan. Calling them unskilled for it is just flat out lying/slandering, stick to the facts. If you want to get mad about them doing it, get mad about them "not giving you the choice" instead of tinfoil hat claims that they somehow arent skilled enough to instance 24 man.


If you want to address me directly, perhaps address my points as well. Such as most FC being too small to even utilize a whole-24 man content. Why anyone ever thought you would make 24 man parties when it was purposely never placed into the game before. Everyone is angry over something they simply assumed, when evidence had long since shown the opposite.

[yoshikwalla]

Worse than Mystic Quest? I think not. This game can be patched; Mystic Quest cannot.

This is an odd design decision, though. Since so many people are requesting an alliance system now more than ever, I don't see why Yoshi-P and his team won't just program one in after the patch launches. It certainly won't be dead-on-arrival though.

We should relax now. There are tons of threads and posts about this, and Yoshi-P will notice/be informed of our problem and eventually fix it. For those of you who are thinking "He's not gonna fix it! This is the worst developer ever Square Enix apparently is a shell of what it once was despite still releasing good games, one of which I'm playing right now otherwise I wouldn't complain in the first place," why wouldn't he fix this? He's listened to the community plenty of times before so why wouldn't he do that now? So please, anyone who is reading this comment, I am begging you to do one thing and one thing only: relax.

[Valcro]

They -want- people to DF. The non DF content is Bahamuts Coil, which they did mention will be extended in the future.

Why anyone ever thought you would make 24 man parties when it was purposely never placed into the game before. Everyone is angry over something they simply assumed, when evidence had long since shown the opposite.

This is spot on, whether we like it or not. FFXIV has clearly been designed as a solo game with groups as a secondary thought. This is the only reason tower is being put into the DF first. Private FC version is simply not done yet. And besides, something tells me that if you formed a FC group for tower, you probably got a gang of folks who would be willing to do tower anyway through DF.

Just saying, it's not like your efforts have gone to waste. You rather break up and do tower solo through DF? Or get everyone to break up in three groups and go at it still and at least count on 7 others to be dedicated and or competent? DF Or FC? FC or DF? You choose. May even get all three groups in the same tower run if you que up at the same exact time. How many pre-made 8 person groups will there really be joining at the very second you are? Think about it.

[yoshikwalla]

I agree! Eventually, there will be two ways to do the Crystal Tower instead of just one.

If you don't have time to join a static or just want to quickly get into the action while crossing your fingers for some cool-looking loot to show off to your friends, you can use the dungeon finder. If you want more of a chance to succeed with an alliance of players and a direct line of communication via Mumble/TeamSpeak, then join a static Linkshell.

I'm more of the FC type of player, but I can be patient.