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    RowanLauron's Avatar
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    Rowan Lauron
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    It's my understanding that your 8 man party won't have hardly anything to do with the other two in there. You will have your own stuff to worry about. It's like having 3 separate platoons who trained separate converging on a common goal. I honestly think you guys are making a bigger deal out of this than you need to be. Wait and try it before you knock it.
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    Zenogias Sorence
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    Quote Originally Posted by RowanLauron View Post
    It's my understanding that your 8 man party won't have hardly anything to do with the other two in there. You will have your own stuff to worry about. It's like having 3 separate platoons who trained separate converging on a common goal. I honestly think you guys are making a bigger deal out of this than you need to be. Wait and try it before you knock it.
    Yes, 3 seperate platoons who trained seperate converging on a common goal.

    AKA: An FC with 3 8-man Binding Coil groups converging on a common goal! AKA: What most of us in raiding FCs have been planning on doing since before release!

    It may not be a big deal to you, but to those of us that actually raid with an FC and have been devoting our time preparing for such an event.. This is a dagger to the heart.

    Please do not understate the gravity of this situation simply because you are a lonewolf and use duty finder to play the game.
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    They should allow us to go to an entrance. And enter. Most groups will figure out how to 'cue' manually and the problem will be out of their hands.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zenogias View Post
    Yes, 3 seperate platoons who trained seperate converging on a common goal.

    AKA: An FC with 3 8-man Binding Coil groups converging on a common goal! AKA: What most of us in raiding FCs have been planning on doing since before release!

    It may not be a big deal to you, but to those of us that actually raid with an FC and have been devoting our time preparing for such an event.. This is a dagger to the heart.

    Please do not understate the gravity of this situation simply because you are a lonewolf and use duty finder to play the game.
    I want to SIG this! This explains in perfect detail why FC is pretty useless and how their plans on giving FCs primal cards/content or whatever will fail before it gets off the ground. That being said, they should consider how difficult it is to depend on 16 other strangers to complete their mission so you can get to the final boss(es) (and get crappy gear lol) compared to 2 dps carrying 2 more dps dmg while 2 healers heal 1 1/2 tanks.
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    Last edited by Fyreus; 11-23-2013 at 07:07 AM.

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    Had to do it, I'm hoping they'll give more info or something will be "fixed" but it is what it is for why it is. Bad? Maybe, overreaction? Yes.
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    I'm going to see Dreadlockrasta's doomsday scenario and raise him 1:

    1 of the 3 parties /ragequits.


    Having left a TON of Derp Finder groups on PLD i can foresee this happening. Often.
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    My prediction: SE will keep war amazingly devastating in PvP so later down the line you must do lolPvE to get PvP stuff... and that will fix the 'lack of tank' issues. /pets cat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenogias View Post
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    Please reconsider this decision, NOW, before it's too late.. So many FCs are about to crumble because of this. Do you care? You have time, please don't let this happen.
    It's "dead on arrival" yet it hasn't even arrived yet. Brilliant. Yes, i can see every fc "crumbling" just because most of them which don't even have 24 players online at the same time on a regular basis can't bring everyone into the same instance at once.

    For the record, they already know that some peple want to form full alliances ahead of time. They said it's going to happen, it just won't be right away. Would you rather them delay Crystal Tower another 3 months just because some functionality not critical to the dungeon itself isn't available yet?
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    Last edited by Alhanelem; 11-23-2013 at 08:33 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    It's "dead on arrival" yet it hasn't even arrived yet. Brilliant. Yes, i can see every fc "crumbling" just because most of them which don't even have 24 players online at the same time on a regular basis can't bring everyone into the same instance at once.
    Some of us worked our asses off to get an FC together that DOES have enough active raiders to do this content together. That is the entire point of my thread, but apparently your whiteknight goggles are on.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    For the record, they already know that some peple want to form full alliances ahead of time. They said it's going to happen, it just won't be right away.
    Perfect, then once everyone has already completed Crystal Tower and received all of their gear.. We can finally do it as an FC! Are you being purposely facetious?

    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    Would you rather them delay Crystal Tower another 3 months just because some functionality not critical to the dungeon itself isn't available yet?
    YES! It was already delayed 4 months!!! To do what? Nerf it into the ground and then make it impossible for FCs to do it together?

    You just made the point that should make people even angrier than they actually are. They delayed a raid that should have been available ON RELEASE, so that they could make it easier. OKAY, but it doesn't take that long to just cut some numbers in a database. So why 4 months and not 1 month? Why couldn't they FIX the raid to actually work for FCs in all that time?
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    Last edited by Zenogias; 11-23-2013 at 09:10 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    It's "dead on arrival" yet it hasn't even arrived yet. Brilliant. Yes, i can see every fc "crumbling" just because most of them which don't even have 24 players online at the same time on a regular basis can't bring everyone into the same instance at once.

    For the record, they already know that some peple want to form full alliances ahead of time. They said it's going to happen, it just won't be right away. Would you rather them delay Crystal Tower another 3 months just because some functionality not critical to the dungeon itself isn't available yet?
    Personally I would rather had them delay the game launch so they can you know finish the game. Then non of this would be problem. Although since you seem so content with defending everything this company does, carry on.
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    It should work like this imo:

    You can't queue unless you have a full party of 8 (correct jobs) OR a full alliance.

    Bam, both issues fixed.
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    Haru Degurechaff
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    I've got 2 i90 pieces and will want to do CT when I'm locked out or bored, 3 if you count the relic weapon, and 4 as soon as next week rolls around. If it gives myth tomes I will also want to go through it more often than anything else because it has a chance to get rid of the DL I have left. Don't want to have to do duty finder groups if I don't have to. It probably increases the chance of failing the run by at least 50%. Does CT lock out for the week or can it get spammed?
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