Can't make a full premade for Crystal Tower...

[Fyce]

"LFM CT full gear 80+, exp. 9/24"

They want to avoid that.

Edit: BTW, make 3 groups of 8, click the DF on the same time... magic happens. If it doesn't put you with the two other groups, just do the run or leave, then try again.

[KHShadowrunner]

With that in mind, I could see a system where you use a sort of token-based way to enter the CT as a full alliance. So say you have 3 groups of 8, the Ldr of group 1 sends a request to the leader of group 2, and this creates a token. Ldr of group 1 or two, having been marked as having the token, send a request to the ldr of group 3. The 3 leaders can then select to enter the tower, and the game waits for all 3 to accept the request before beginning the dungeon.

But hten how does it handle individual group members being AFK? (you'd assume this isn't a problem, but pre-mades aren't all FC members)

And could you create the system to know that there's just 2? (Yes.)

I'm not saying there aren't ways. I'm just saying it'll come in due-time.

[Naunet]

"LFM CT full gear 80+, exp. 9/24"

They want to avoid that.

Edit: BTW, make 3 groups of 8, click the DF on the same time... magic happens.

Who cares if people make premades with particular gear requirements? It doesn't affect you; you can still queue by yourself or with likeminded friends. As for your "solution" - it doesn't work for dungeons now when trying to replace, say, a tank who dropped; it won't work for CT.

Not allowing more than 8 people to queue at a time is absurd. Once again, Squeenix proves they have only about 3/4 of the necessary understanding of the MMO market in just about everything they do.

[Fyce]

Not allowing more than 8 people to queue at a time is absurd.

Do you really need, right now, to be able to have a full 24 player premade raid to crawl a casual dungeon?

[Namasu]

Do you really need, right now, to be able to have a full 24 player premade raid to crawl a casual dungeon?

Do we really need free company in this game then? Why not just remove the whole FC system then if they want to focus on 8man x3 for 24 man duty finder. What's the point of allowing FC to even be larger than 8 man size if we are getting forced into groups of 8 for almost everything endgame.

Might as well just trash the whole system and force everyone into a linkshell if they don't want to prioritize FC gameplay.

gotta like the attitudes if you're not part of my fc i want nothing to do with you! grrr lol stop being selfish, its a mmo for a reason to play with other people even the people in your fc were strangers before be nice hang out with your fellow 14 players.

If a player that want to pug is from my server, then cool, I would love to add them to my CT group if there is room. Oh nvm, this is duty finder so I will probably end up with some random from another server that I will never see again. That alone is a big turn off for duty finding CT.

[Fyce]

Do we really need free company in this game then? Why not just remove the whole FC system then if they want to focus on 8man x3 for 24 man duty finder. What's the point of allowing FC to even be larger than 8 man size if we are getting forced into groups of 8 for almost everything endgame.

Might as well just trash the whole system and force everyone into a linkshell if they don't want to prioritize FC gameplay.

You're right, I'm sorry.
I should have known that there are bazillions FC who desperately want to bring all the 24 people level 50 with decent "start endgame gear" they have online, just to do a casual dungeon.
Also, you've shown me the truth about what guilds and FC are for. That's true, what's the point of a FC if you can't even do end game stuff? Friendship? Same goal? Mutual aid? Naaaaaa. This stuff is garbage, we don't need FC for that! Only end game dungeon, you're right.