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  1. #121
    Player Yurikitty's Avatar
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    Yuri Shineko
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    Leviathan
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    Conjurer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by ashikenshin View Post
    yup, "if I can't do it with my FC, noone can! waaaawwaaaahh"
    OUt of 127 responses to this thread only 3 people are defending the decision SE made. But since Ashikenshin seems to be the most vocal I award you this coveted award:

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  2. #122
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    Bahram's Avatar
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    Bahram Arendt
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shikiseki View Post
    I think it'll be interesting , you need all teams to succeed to proceed - egoism will get you nowhere xD
    I think you meant egotism.

    I play with random and new people all the time. Hell, I helped a random person's NM Garuda with a friend because they were struggling and just because. That I can't queue up with more than 8 people means that people in my guild who aren't doing coil with us will either have to displace one of our other members or continue to have other people watch from the sideline. I'm not sure if I'd even go in with a full 24 since my guild doesn't have that many truly active players. 24 man content through the DF made me think this was something I could do to play with people who aren't in my 8 man group, but didn't require me filling all 24 slots.

    Feel the way you want, but I don't think that all people are upset about this because they'll have to leave their bubble. I think some people, like me, are disappointed because this seemed like something you could do with a bunch of your friends that you might not do coil with. Believe it or not, this actually makes the 8 man bubble worse. It doesn't help at all.
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  3. #123
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    Dalek Codex
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Phe View Post
    no please - explain it to me.

    how ON EARTH can it be more complicated and more time consuming to program an alliance feature while programming the whole freaking Crystal Tower?
    They have barely pulled off the implementation of the UI for 24-man groups (it still looks a bit questionable). Clearly something is posing problems for them with the full implementation of a 24-man group.
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    Always remember the Silver Rule:
    "Treat others as they treat you!" ...or something like that.

  4. #124
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    KHShadowrunner's Avatar
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    Dalia Shadowrunner
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    Behemoth
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    Thaumaturge Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Phe View Post
    no please - explain it to me.

    how ON EARTH can it be more complicated and more time consuming to program an alliance feature while programming the whole freaking Crystal Tower?
    Mechanics, overlay, UI interface, PEt interaction, Priority system, Loot system, random distriubition system, hate mechanics, other features..

    oh wait, you thought that this would only be the crystal tower? The entire game would be affected by a new system involving more than 8 people.

    They could have gated it using some kind of token system to allow for groups to form a token at the enterance to CT I guess, but then you would have griefers who sit at the gate, ruin your party of 3, and then just do jack-all to ruin your day.

    So Earth was explained to you, Cyrstal tower has existed for a long, long, long time. So eh.
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  5. #125
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    Alta Kelma
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    Ragnarok
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    Black Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by ashikenshin View Post
    yup, "if I can't do it with my FC, noone can! waaaawwaaaahh"
    Yes, until SE let us play this game the way we want, with the people we want to play with.

    idc if we have to spend hours leaving the DF, our FC want to play together.
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  6. #126
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    Jowy Blight
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    Ragnarok
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Belzeboss9 View Post
    CT should be full FC! Thats why FC exists anyway, to play with your friends!
    I agree. An awful lot of people have been basing their FC size around doing alliance content, 8 people plus a load of pickups is not what everyone had in mind.
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  7. #127
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jowy View Post
    I agree. An awful lot of people have been basing their FC size around doing alliance content, 8 people plus a load of pickups is not what everyone had in mind.
    It'll come, oh it'll come.

    In the meantime, Hell yeah Crystal Tower! More than 8 people doing something that you can actively see! Woo!
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  8. #128
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    Phe's Avatar
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    Ogawa Sanshirou
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    Ragnarok
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by KHShadowrunner View Post
    Mechanics, overlay, UI interface, PEt interaction, Priority system, Loot system, random distriubition system, hate mechanics, other features..
    how are these things different from a duty finder alliance compared to a pre-made one?

    i'm only talking about this feature:

    building an alliance on myself and not with duty finder.
    they can limit the alliance feature to this dungeon.
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  9. #129
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    Matic Valefor
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    Excalibur
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    bad design decision to be sure, but who cares its level 80 gear, meh
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  10. #130
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    Egwene Alvere
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    Balmung
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    I know myself and my free company are pretty disappointed to not be able to do the 24 man content in groups larger than 8. We were really looking forward to doing Crystal Tower as a free company and now.....we can't. I hope they either add the alliance feature in or allow you to queu with two other groups of your choosing thru the same server party finder.
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