Can't make a full premade for Crystal Tower...

[Fyce]

Not allowing more than 8 people to queue at a time is absurd.

Do you really need, right now, to be able to have a full 24 player premade raid to crawl a casual dungeon?

[Namasu]

Do you really need, right now, to be able to have a full 24 player premade raid to crawl a casual dungeon?

Do we really need free company in this game then? Why not just remove the whole FC system then if they want to focus on 8man x3 for 24 man duty finder. What's the point of allowing FC to even be larger than 8 man size if we are getting forced into groups of 8 for almost everything endgame.

Might as well just trash the whole system and force everyone into a linkshell if they don't want to prioritize FC gameplay.

gotta like the attitudes if you're not part of my fc i want nothing to do with you! grrr lol stop being selfish, its a mmo for a reason to play with other people even the people in your fc were strangers before be nice hang out with your fellow 14 players.

If a player that want to pug is from my server, then cool, I would love to add them to my CT group if there is room. Oh nvm, this is duty finder so I will probably end up with some random from another server that I will never see again. That alone is a big turn off for duty finding CT.

[Fyce]

Do we really need free company in this game then? Why not just remove the whole FC system then if they want to focus on 8man x3 for 24 man duty finder. What's the point of allowing FC to even be larger than 8 man size if we are getting forced into groups of 8 for almost everything endgame.

Might as well just trash the whole system and force everyone into a linkshell if they don't want to prioritize FC gameplay.

You're right, I'm sorry.
I should have known that there are bazillions FC who desperately want to bring all the 24 people level 50 with decent "start endgame gear" they have online, just to do a casual dungeon.
Also, you've shown me the truth about what guilds and FC are for. That's true, what's the point of a FC if you can't even do end game stuff? Friendship? Same goal? Mutual aid? Naaaaaa. This stuff is garbage, we don't need FC for that! Only end game dungeon, you're right.

[Zumi]

I don't think it matters too much. This is the casual content gear up an alt job that you don't take to coil or have myth gear for. Its not like the serious hard core end game. Yoshi already said that this would be for the casual players. Most of the people complaining about it already run coil and have no need for this zone on their mains.

Its more like the I am bored I think I will queue up for this to run my alt job.

[ashikenshin]

LFM Fate party 22/24

I think it might boost xp for fates :P

[Molly_Millions]

Pre-made parties are not subject to the retry timer if they leave an instance. This will lead to frustration due to many parties starting and leaving until they get paired up with their own people and SE will eventually need to change it.

[Zumi]

Pre-made parties are not subject to the retry timer if they leave an instance. This will lead to frustration due to many parties starting and leaving until they get paired up with their own people and SE will eventually need to change it.

They already are going to change it in 2.2. Its just that queuing with alliances isn't ready in 2.1.

[Molly_Millions]

They already are going to change it in 2.2. Its just that queuing with alliances isn't ready in 2.1.

That doesn't mean the scenario I laid out won't happen. It will. A lot.

[Zumi]

That doesn't mean the scenario I laid out won't happen. It will. A lot.

I doubt it because most hard core people won't want to get 24 people together to do a casual dungeon for lvl 80 gear. Most of my coil group doesn't even want to touch CT because it drops worse gear then coil, except for the run it once to see how it is, and the few who want to gear up alts jobs. Also it might not count as a premade because there is now 24 people in the group so you may still get the penalty even if you queue with 8.

[Molly_Millions]

I doubt it because most hard core people won't want to get 24 people together to do a casual dungeon for lvl 80 gear. Most of my coil group doesn't even want to touch CT because it drops worse gear then coil, except for the run it once to see how it is, and the few who want to gear up alts jobs. Also it might not count as a premade because there is now 24 people in the group so you may still get the penalty even if you queue with 8.

Do you not see the number of people in this thread saying they want to do CT with their FC? It's going to happen. This is the only content that a medium or large FC can rally around aside from housing.