Can't make a full premade for Crystal Tower...

[Bahram]

I think it'll be interesting , you need all teams to succeed to proceed - egoism will get you nowhere xD

I think you meant egotism.

I play with random and new people all the time. Hell, I helped a random person's NM Garuda with a friend because they were struggling and just because. That I can't queue up with more than 8 people means that people in my guild who aren't doing coil with us will either have to displace one of our other members or continue to have other people watch from the sideline. I'm not sure if I'd even go in with a full 24 since my guild doesn't have that many truly active players. 24 man content through the DF made me think this was something I could do to play with people who aren't in my 8 man group, but didn't require me filling all 24 slots.

Feel the way you want, but I don't think that all people are upset about this because they'll have to leave their bubble. I think some people, like me, are disappointed because this seemed like something you could do with a bunch of your friends that you might not do coil with. Believe it or not, this actually makes the 8 man bubble worse. It doesn't help at all.

[joshsecret]

2 scenarios that stick out immediately.

1) Group A- FC group. plays well together. knows each others strengths/weaknesses. run their section of the raid.
Group B- same as A
Group C- random DF mess. people rage quitting, trolling, etc.
with this setup, group A & B do their part for the raid and hit a road block waiting on group C to get its act together, find new party members, stop arguing, etc. so they can hit that switch to allow the progression of the other 2 groups. this will cause FC groups to eventually do...

2) 24 FC members try to enter the Q at the same time. enter. realize some are paired w strangers. someone takes the penalty and quits. so what you end up w at the end is 24 strangers running the entire thing. if the content ends up being like everything else but just split into 3 groups, this scares me even more. in every fight there seems to be very little wiggle room when it comes to 1 weak link. imagine how many weak links will occur w 24 strangers...

[Alkel]

This is the worst idea ever!

We want to play with ou friends! Thats why FC exists!

If it stay this way, we will just queue up an leave until our 3 PT are finally together in the CT.

[Black_Rose]

This is the worst idea ever!

We want to play with ou friends! Thats why FC exists!

If it stay this way, we will just queue up an leave until our 3 PT are finally together in the CT.

i wonder if that is a wise decission to make.
since there is a penalty awaiting you for leaving.

i'd just take CT for what it is and enjoy it, no matter if full FC alliance or not.

yea, SE could have done a better job, but look at it from a point of CT being part of the DF.
this way it's easier for the DF server to grab players.
if everyone is going with their FC alot of the less fortunate players will be left out needing to wait for the DF to build groups forever.

just look at how long it takes to build just one group using the DF, now imagine 3 groups.

[Zfz]

Our FC was talking about arranging for Server First or even World First on CT (not that it really means much, when you're organizing teams that have most of BC on farm to do CT...) and then this hit us. :3

Not being able to arrange a full FC raid is just...sad...I suppose Square Enix wanted premades to mix in with solo queuers to average out the alliance standards.

[Belzeboss9]

CT should be full FC! Thats why FC exists anyway, to play with your friends!

[Jowy]

CT should be full FC! Thats why FC exists anyway, to play with your friends!

I agree. An awful lot of people have been basing their FC size around doing alliance content, 8 people plus a load of pickups is not what everyone had in mind.

[KHShadowrunner]

I agree. An awful lot of people have been basing their FC size around doing alliance content, 8 people plus a load of pickups is not what everyone had in mind.

It'll come, oh it'll come.

In the meantime, Hell yeah Crystal Tower! More than 8 people doing something that you can actively see! Woo!

[Taruranto]

I honestly can't tell what it worse, SE not managing to have an alliance system by now or people defending this.

[Edewen]

oh well. had a good run for me. but my auto renewal is shut down until this reverses, and i dont mean 3 months later in 2.2. CT was my light at the end of the tunnel. Hello trainwreck