A plea to reconsider Inner Beast changes

[Paikis]

Some people just refuse to be convinced Paikis. I'm more than happy to accept differing opinions on the new IB, after all it can really be seen as a buff in some content (especially prior to gearing) but it's really sad how grossly misinformed a lot of WAR are over the intricacies of the current IB. People will fight you tooth and nail to tell you how wrong you are regardless of what numbers you show them. Given the upcoming change I'm at least glad I won't have to have the same tired discussion about it.

I have come to this conclusion as well.

I have posted a screenshot previously of me hitting 1194 Inner Beast without the group STR buff. But I can't be arsed digging it out for people who wont be convinced anyway. I'm sure it's just because I'm an ego-driven elitist who is just being carried by his healers. Whatever.

Anyways, yes I would prefer seeing the DR put onto Steel Cyclone. That would give us a choice, do I want the huge heal? Or do I want the damage reduction?

[CurlyBruce]

I have posted a screenshot previously of me hitting 1194 Inner Beast without the group STR buff. But I can't be arsed digging it out for people who wont be convinced anyway. I'm sure it's just because I'm an ego-driven elitist who is just being carried by his healers. Whatever.

I'd be very interested in seeing this as by all accounts with your current gear (388 STR 237 Det) your maximum Inner Beast with Maim,Storm's Eye, Berserk, and Crit should be 1032. Even with party buff you'll only get to 1058. So I'm curious how you managed to pull this wonderful feat of hax damage.

[Giantbane]

I have come to this conclusion as well.

I have posted a screenshot previously of me hitting 1194 Inner Beast without the group STR buff. But I can't be arsed digging it out for people who wont be convinced anyway. I'm sure it's just because I'm an ego-driven elitist who is just being carried by his healers. Whatever.

Anyways, yes I would prefer seeing the DR put onto Steel Cyclone. That would give us a choice, do I want the huge heal? Or do I want the damage reduction?

It's easy to be skeptical. Look up a few posts and you'll see symba doing 985 crit with berserk active. She has about 35 more STR than you and more DET. You *do* have bravura +1 and she only has bravura so that's an advantage to you. However, I've heard that's about worth 8str points, that only cuts the STR gap in half (and does nothing for DET). How did you manage to do an extra 200 damage? That seems unlikely.

I wanted to test this further, I also have a +1, threw on a couple dps acc and was able to push my STR to 377 and DET to 227 (11 and 10 less than you respectively). Then I went and hit a striking dummy for a long time (more than 30min, hitting 1-2-3 while reading something else). Mixed in berserks, even tested out some Hi potions of STR to push my STR higher than yours (to 404). With my base stats, I was hitting in the 400-440 (non-crit) with maim & SE up. If I used the STR pots I pushed as high as 480 (non-crit). STR pots, berserk and crit I was able to push as high as 700 (1050 crit). So I have no idea how you managed an 1194 inner beast unless you had all your points allocated into STR at the time. Even if you did, that only gives you 418 STR, which is only 14 more strength the me using the pot. So it still doesn't make any sense, 14 STR shouldn't = 150 more damage, even under berserk and crit.

Using your Wrath stacks will heal you for anywhere between 1k and up to 4k (my highest so far is 3.7k and I average 1.8-2k without Berserk)

1.8-2k without berserk, how is that possible. You need to be hitting 600 dmg+ without berserk. By pushing my STR higher than what you currently have displayed (melded acc and all), I couldn't touch 500 damage without a crit. And without IB i'm not critting very often so you can't count on that or call it average.

If you're getting 2k out of Inner Beast (I haven't seen one for much less than this in quite some time. No crit, no Berserk, just Maim and SE).

Again, how is this possible. You only have 11 more STR than i'm testing with and 10 more DET. That's not enough to justify getting 150+ more out of your inner beast. Even with the group buff, is it giving you something like 75 STR to make that possible?!

Incidentally, i took my Gryphonskin stuff off and went and smacked a dummy. 450-500 damage, no crits, no berserk. 1.5k healed.

Ok, now this is HIGHLY suspect. Taking off your accessories, will drop you down 45 STR and 20 DET. This drops you down to 343 STR and 217 DET and lower stats than I am testing with. And yet somehow you were able to smack the same dummy as I was for more damage?! That doesn't make any sense whatsoever. To test it out, I swapped out some gear to give me 342 STR and 225 DET. I was hitting for mostly 380. How exactly do you account for the extra 100 damage you're claiming?