Concerns about Content Patch 2.1

[Rowan_Moonkeeper]

[QUOTE=Maxthunder;1549810]

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SE could do the following: make open world mobs viable meaning they pose a threat, add open world grind parties, open world hnm's that actually give something of use (unlike behemouth and odin currently), use grand company seals to buy hnm pop items (1 time use win or lose), bcnm's (again gc seals for the item or the um beastman if you can call them that will drop them). There is so much more that could be done with the open world to improve all players experiences.

Yes but this idea contains suggestions of FF11 & for some absurd reason both Yoshi & a large % of this community's populace, wishes to exclude anything & everything from 11. Pay no attention now to the mobs with different names (Malboro, raptor, goblin etc) who resemble FF11 mobs. Or the skills/abilities (same name; different meanings) adapted from 11. Why even Allagan has an Aht Urgan feel to it.

But I like your idea.

[Alcyon_Densetsu]

It boils down to PS3. It's very expensive and time consuming to release a patch on the PS3. Each client update must go through Format at SCEE and SCEA and neither of them have very fast turn around. I've seen updates take as long as 2 months to get approved (or denied) after submission. Then, if the update fails Format QA, then they start the process all over again.

That's why you dont see a new update coming out every month or two.

Ouch. I hadn't considered that. Sounds so obvious now that you say it…

What you say about Format is entirely true, so yeah… you're absolutely right. No quick patches for FF XIV, ever.

[Dial]

Camate did answer the question..."Shit takes time, If you want it done right, stop bitching and wait for them to finish there job" Sounds right to me. So, ya'll stop bitching and wait.

[Wolfhammer]

do oyu pay 15$ every time you wanna play doom. If not they dont really compare

Do you pay $15 every time you want to play FFXIV? If not, they really do compare.

[Hysterior]

Concern is will 2.1 have enough content to last till 2.2...
2.1 could really not come soon enough...

[Ri_ri]

It takes 8090 Tomes of Philo to complete 1 Relic and 1 full DL set.

There are other gear sets besides DL and Relic, you know.

[Taemek]

There are other gear sets besides DL and Relic, you know.

Sure, like crafted sets? I can play that game, here let me enlighten you:

It takes 9 pieces of the consumables from the Tomes of Philo per piece.

You have 12 pieces x 9 = 13500 Tomes of Philo for a full set / 100 per run = 135 runs x 35 mins on average = 78.75 hours / 5 hours per day = 15.75 days. Who do you know plays for 5 hours a day 7 days a week?

This doesn't include the weapon because Relic is easier to obtain. 900 Tomes of Philo / 35 mins per run = 25 hours just for Relic alone.

CM & Preat don't drop gear, only Tomes.

WP & AK drop sets that you will eventually have for every Job role by the time you farm enough Philo tomes for 1 set of DL + 1 Relic OR The tomes required for the crafting set.

After that, then what? Allagan? yeah sure, range based luck roll system determined by a loot table where you may likely not see a single piece of loot for your class for weeks.

Myth tome sets? 5010 Myth tomes / 300 per week = 16.7 weeks. 300 Myth tomes / 30 tomes per run = 10 runs x 35mins = 5.8 hours per week x 16.7 weeks = 96.8 hours.

So lets recap here:

70 hours for full set of 1 DL + 1 Relic = 40.8 Dungeon Runs
103 Hours for full set of 1 Crafting gear + 1 Relic = 60 Dungeon Runs
121.8 hours for full 1 Myth set + 1 Relic = 71 Dungeon Runs
You can't even put a time frame on Allagan gear. You are simply lucky or you aren't.


So lets put this in to perspective, because most peoples first set of DL gear includes their Relic:

70 hours for full set of 1 DL + 1 Relic = 40.8 Dungeon Runs
78.75 hours for full set of 1 Crafting = 45.9 Dungeons Runs
96.8 hours for full set of 1 Myth = 56.5 Dungeon Runs Per set as they are job role only

Total Dungeon Runs = 143.2 Dungeon Runs.

How many dungeons do we have to choose from again? 4

Now, like it or not, try and paint a pretty picture over it all you like, fact is, 4 dungeons to run this many times is enough to make anyone quit due to lack of content. Lets not also forget to mention, these are assuming you never fail, get disconnected, have a bad group, wipe, AFK or have any down time what so ever.

Now that all the boring math is out the way, how many dungeons do you have to choose from to run over this amount of time? 4.......if you are still not following after all this, then I can't help you. This is my whole point, right here in this very paragraph.

[Rivienne]

Total Dungeon Runs = 143.2 Dungeon Runs.

How many dungeons do we have to choose from again? 4

Now, like it or not, try and paint a pretty picture over it all you like, fact is, 4 dungeons to run this many times is enough to make anyone quit due to lack of content.

Not to go too far off track, but on one of my characters I got the Dungeon Siege III achievement before hitting Hauke. So Sastasha,Tam-Tara, Copperbell, Halatali, and Toto-Rak..I wasn't running for a grind, but for practice and fun. I didn't burn myself out on them. In fact I still enjoy running Halatali & copperbell occasionally.

How burnt out you get by content is entirely dependent on why you are running them.

If you only run those dungeons for tomes, and only to cap yourself out for the week, then that is why you so easily get burnt out on those 4 dungeons. Not because there are only 4 of them. If you ran them for fun, instead of tomes, and didn't feel like you had to run them a certain number of times a week, it wouldn't burn you out anywhere near as quickly.

Not trying to argue with any other point you are making, just want to point out that much of this problem stems from how you choose to invest your time in the game. If you are only focused on the end goal of gear, and the dungeons are simply something in the way.... Then yes, after a certain number of runs you will start to feel burnt out.

But it doesn't have to be that way for everyone. For me when I get gear it is an "ooh yay" rather than "omg finally".

[AresGodofwar]

First of all, let me apologize for my bad grammar...
But yes SE could have add a lot of it's FF11 great contents and make the endgame community.. I barely play 14 now bcz i'm pretty much done with it's content since mid October and now i only log for my daily relic run or coil group. bcz there is nothing else for me to do in this game.

I'm gonna bring the HNM concept back, bcz that's what made 11 so popular and fun to me at least. Now how do you bring HNM back in 14? with a daily LEVE or GUILDHEST access.. why so there is no claim issue and FC would be happy to take on Odin, Behemoth, etc as a FC instead of ridiculous large FATE. I really do not understand why SE couldnt make a once a day FC HNM Leves access.

[LoLo]

Have any of you created game content for a MMO? I haven't, but I can atleast accept that maybe I don't know how much work it takes to develop and create content for a active MMO. I do know that coding websites and programs take a lot of time. I'm also not focused on this game as my only source of entertainment so that may be why I can wait and give the devs time to make content.