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  1. #41
    Player ashikenshin's Avatar
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    Kyuyuna Shadowsun
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    Excalibur
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Trancery View Post
    I'm definitely unsubbing until more is added. Sorry Yoshi, but if the real game starts at 50, well then you've sadly missed the point of how mmos (and life in general) should be about the Journey and not the Destination.
    and then people ask why developers listen to casuals instead of hardcores. Casuals keep subbed because they enjoy all types of content. So goodbye content <word that starts with L>, see you next patch

    Quote Originally Posted by Trancery View Post
    Life is too short to waste in a game that you're no longer having fun in. See you next Patch Ashy
    now you are making sense. But you know this state of affairs won't change right? leveling will still be the same fate grind. New dungeons arrive and you have to spam those dungeons.

    Why am I content with this "shallow" content? Well, where do I start. I don't find FATE leveling boring. I have played Tera FFXI and WoW (not an impressive resume on MMO experience but whatever) And know the grind, I have grinded:
    Multiple jobs in FFXI (red mage dark Knight warrior were the only ones i managed to get to 75)
    Multiple "toons" in WoW and
    A marshall rank in Vanilla WoW when they implemented the ladder type honor system
    One character in Tera

    This grind? pffft this is nothing! this is like baby stuff, and I do want to have all my jobs with relic at 50. I have a goal and I intend to do it, it's not hard but it's not something everybody is willing to do.

    I want to try Coils probably next week. I'm not that interested in the gear but I want to continue the story.

    The crafting is sooooo adictive to me that I decided to stop and continue with battle classes first.

    This game might not be for you but man am I in love.
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    Last edited by ashikenshin; 11-14-2013 at 06:03 AM.

  2. #42
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    Trancery's Avatar
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    Breaking Bad
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by ashikenshin View Post
    and then people ask why developers listen to casuals instead of hardcores. Casuals keep subbed because they enjoy all types of content. So goodbye content <word that starts with L>, see you next patch
    I am a casual player you silly goose. If leveling was something other than teleporting around and spamming 1, 2 on my keybar (not to mention the atrocious lag that goes with it) or if dungeon queue didn't take forever w/o the possibility to do other things while you wait, then I'd quite enjoy leveling up another class.

    Problem is it is not, the leveling 1-50 is bland and boring once the main story is over. The 2 endgame dungeons you have to run 50 times to get a full DL set. I did that, and quite frankly I'm burned out on those. Can I ask why you are so content with such shallow 'content'?

    Life is too short to waste in a game that you're no longer having fun in. See you next Patch Ashy
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  3. #43
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    Early years of FFXI and WoW...now those were the days...
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  4. #44
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    Mariwanna Kushi
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    Phoenix
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trancery View Post
    This game after you beat the main story quest (which is fantastic by the way and certainly deserves credit where credit is due) is incredibly shallow ... Sorry Yoshi, but if the real game starts at 50, well then you've sadly missed the point of how mmos (and life in general) should be about the Journey and not the Destination.
    1. The story was not fantastic. It was mediocre and boring and extremely disappointing for a FF game. It didn't even feel like a real FF story.
    2. Yeah, you're right, it's pretty boring.
    3. For the record, MMOs do start at level cap. That's just the way it is. Yoshi isn't wrong. It's you! If you really like the journey more than the destination, then you should count your lucky stars that you are able to level all classes to 50 on the same toon! Keep enjoying that journey!
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  5. #45
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    DeceptionsWrath's Avatar
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    Anita Rathkamp
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    Leviathan
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    Weaver Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Xystic View Post
    Because you feel that player housing should come before FC housing does not mean that most people are with you on this issue.

    Other community members obviously do not agree with you on that point in this thread. You have members on both sides. Please keep that in mind before bulking the community with you.
    Well i certainly agree with him, i have no free company so free company housing doesn't concern me. So far this 2.1 update has only one thing that interests me, and that's the beauty salon. Hardly enough to keep someone subbed. I feel come January the 600,000+ subs will take a bit of a drop since some subbed for 3 months for the rewards, myself included. But i guess we'll just have to wait and see.
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  6. #46
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    But leveling everything to 50 after the first time is excruciating. That is my point. MMO's should be about the journey. It should take longer than 2 weeks - month to CAP your character. It should be a long and rewarding process. Where you do meaningful things along the way, encounter hard obstacles, meet great friends, explore amazing worlds.

    FFXIV ARR is just an instanced and zoned themepark...The world "or the content that is actually relevant" is incredibly small.
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  7. #47
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    Altanas Aidendale
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    Excalibur
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    Lancer Lv 70
    I think SE did themselves a disservice by pushing everything into 2.1. What they should have done is kept on the media bandwagon with regular updates splitting 2.1 over October to the end of the year. That way there would be continued media coverage on places like IGN and MMORPG.com etc.

    Also some content is just too huge to be released with a multitude of other things.

    And personally while I like huge patches I dislike the effect it has on the status quo of the community. Suddenly the whole nature of the daily game changes and everything else is suddenly old abandoned content. It would not be so "shocking" if things were added piecemeal.
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  8. #48
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    Rakuyo Mitani
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    Siren
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    Astrologian Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Mariwanna View Post
    1. The story was not fantastic. It was mediocre and boring and extremely disappointing for a FF game. It didn't even feel like a real FF story.
    I enjoyed the story, but I think all of the fetch quests that were included for artificial padding kind of ruined it a bit. Castrum Meridianum and Praetorium felt pretty epic to me, but maybe that's because I did them with friends the first time through. I don't think this story was comparable to most of FFXI's story (especially CoP, but I don't think any MMO will compare to that), but it was lightyears ahead of most MMOs, and I was sad to finish the MSQ scenarios.
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  9. #49
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    Tribunus Augustus
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    Ragnarok
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    Whilst I currently enjoy the game very much the endgame is severly lacking, other games have launched with more and then released their first major patch by now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by roohan View Post
    There is alot other stuff to do besides running endgame dungeons. People just limit themselves with doing only endgame dungeon content.
    There is a lot of fun and content to do depending on the type of player you are.. Some players are end-game players, some like to smell the roses, some like achievements. Yea there is all that stuff, but not everyone is going to be happy to just do all of it.. It is pay to play and unfortunately, that means they need to cater to all playerbases, or some stop paying to play.

    If some stop paying, the people that enjoy the OTHER content are going to suffer in the long run. No need to throw the other payers aside like they are doing it wrong. It is their money, and I want SE to have it as well!
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