The Solo disease?

[Elexia]

I am a solo player and I hope that this game will have more solo content. If not, I quit!!

I hope it has more group based content than solo based content, because I don't play an MMORPG to do what I can in offline titles.

[Melodicya]

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[Kilta_Firelotus]

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thanks for giving me time to edit said post before deleting it

Back on topic..

Anty that will mean ppl who soly craft or gather can't complete the story lines. And it shouldn't be limited.

[Aketo]

Tolerance and understanding, If only people would this in game we wouldn't be arguing among each other as to who is better or less arrogant or intolerant of each other in game.

Sadly I had seen both sides of the coin for soloer in and groupers that have had both great people, and people that are about as bad a bad can get when i comes to communication and treating others as dirt.

Some people no matter what role they play in game will end up being jerks no matter what you do or don't do to them, but still your going to run into great people and bad apples all the time sadly this one of the many aspects of online gaming.

One should always remember each and all of us has feeling and we are all human and as such humans will be human and have good an bad each and every one of us, as such and everyone one of us also has our own preferences and opinions.

Now in my personal experience I have seen more of this intolerance on the groupers side with demands galore which is why I usually avoid groups for the most part at lease from my personal experience.

But on the same token I have seen soloers that have behaved badly in chat as well from time to time be it froma bad day in real life or bad mood or other reason who can say.

Sadly no matter where you go game wise where people can connect there will always be good and bad apples on either side that play the game in multiples way.

While we should be more tolerant and understanding of each other I have seen in the majority of even this thread people bash each other over and over from both sides of the fence.

Though it should be noted for a game like final fantasy xiv and most mmos each day is different and each person is different while it was well stated by another poster it should be mentioned again.

We all do what we want in game at any given time sometimes that means a person only solos all the time be its crafting, gathering, or killing mobs while another might group up part of the time and spend the other part relaxing gathering what have you alone.

Diversity and tolerance is the only way this game and game community as a whole in my opinion, along with the developers trying to fix and improve the game will allow it to recover and grow.

Always remember we are all different and all have our ups and downs, as such I am sure if you have a good LS even soloers and groupers will talk a lot in it I know I do and many others do that both solo and group all day long or so something in between if it only to get on to chat with LS friends.

But still without tolerance and community the game a whole can not grow, and as such I hope that SE continues to keep a diverse strategy from improving the game a whole so that people from all walks of life can enjoy the game as they see fit.

[Anty]

thanks for giving me time to edit said post before deleting it

Back on topic..

Anty that will mean ppl who soly craft or gather can't complete the story lines. And it shouldn't be limited.

nono, i mean they would have the same story but from a different point of view. more logical.
Its just the easy and no-fun way out to give them parley... where battle classes fight beastmen...

They could even see the same cutszenes (perhaps some are slightly different in the end) just so this gets really evolving.
The way it is now (i tried these missions with DOH) you feel like..
"oh, we forget the content for DOL and DOH classes... ... ahhh my daughter came up with a mini-game last evening... lets just do this"....

Best would be to combine the classes for a big goal though... but that wouldnt be solo friendly.
See the point? you HAVE to implement so many different options to please everyone and at the same time, make things good, enjoyable and logically woven into the plot. Its possible but needs more time... and i doubt they will do it since it has to pay off in the end...

i would welcome it though

[Kilta_Firelotus]

Actually parlay is a feesable with in the time period SE set. More so with LLs lore of being a pirate town. I like the fact a person can brib a mob which would happen in a real instance using a few lore bits this game got. Pretty much
Gridania are pasifist and would make peace offerings instead of fighting (as a crafter or gather)
While LL is a pirate down and it is a brib to save ones skin
Similar with the syndicate ran Ul'dah but under a mafia sounding theme
:P

Well that is the way I see things.

tbh i'm shock the OP has replied for a while.

[Amage]

Ahhh... Begging your pardon, but yes you did, in post #13 of this thread you said the following - a direct copied-and-pasted quote - in response to a statement Dubont makes in post #6 about how FFXIV has solo content but is not going to be 100% soloable...

Dubont: You: You are outright questioning why all content shouldn't be soloable; why it shouldn't scale so that a solo player can do everything and it's not "group only".

You do argue that it should balance nicely between grouping and solo and not be "one extreme or the other". However, that reads more like an attempt to soften your real issue, which is clearly voiced from the soloers point-of-view, and is slanted quite clearly in favor of soloing.

To put it another way, let me ask you this question, and please answer it honestly.

Would you be so moved as to create a thread like this one, making the statements you have, if FFXIV was made entirely soloable? Would you care at all if the game had no group-focused content at all? Would you still feel so compelled to voice your 'concerns'? Or would you be relieved that "finally" there's a game that fully supports your playstyle?

I'm gonna take what I think is a safe bet here and say it wouldn't trouble you in the least.

Now you're contradicting yourself.

First you ask why all content shouldn't scale so that it can be done solo. Now you're claiming that not all content should be soloable nor that FFXIV should cater more to soloers.

Right... So what, then, is your actual complaint?

Kinda hard to defend your position when you can't even argue it consistently. Why don't you take a moment and figure out what your position actually is, and then come back and try again when you've figured it out.

OHHHHHHHHHH SNAP!!!!!!!

[DeadRiser]

I don't see the fun in soloing everything. Oblivion is a single player RPG, I spent PLENTY of time playing that....
Another thing, why PAY a monthly fee if you aren't doing anything with anyone except getting occasssional updates, MOST that you have to continue to buy? That's beyond me really...

[Kilta_Firelotus]

OHHHHHHHHHH SNAP!!!!!!!

funny part is I posted the same thing 4 times to him and he still denied it.

[BruceyBruceyBangBang]

I don't see the fun in soloing everything. Oblivion is a single player RPG, I spent PLENTY of time playing that....
Another thing, why PAY a monthly fee if you aren't doing anything with anyone except getting occasssional updates, MOST that you have to continue to buy? That's beyond me really...

I think what the soloers mean is they like to generally socialize, but want to be represented in future content if they choose to solo. With scalable yet challenging instances. The debate is over why MMOs do not do this with all of their content.

This post isn't a defense to them or a nod to players who like their group play. It's just a reminder of what the freakin debate is since it's gone so off track.