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    Quote Originally Posted by thedevilsjester View Post
    I never say such a thing and in fact I make it a point to say numerous times that there is plenty of content that I do not think should be soloable.
    Ahhh... Begging your pardon, but yes you did, in post #13 of this thread you said the following - a direct copied-and-pasted quote - in response to a statement Dubont makes in post #6 about how FFXIV has solo content but is not going to be 100% soloable...

    Dubont:
    Yes, it is solo friendly and will have solo content, but the game isn't going to be 100% soloable.
    You:
    Why not? Why is the only option a group game that you can solo in, or a solo game that you can group in?

    What makes grouping so special that groups should get what soloists shouldn't? If I put in the same amount of effort (or more) as a soloist as you do in a group, shouldn't I be entitled to the same rewards? Is your time or effort more valuable just because you had other people to help you?

    This isn't to say that soloist should be handed anything, quite the opposite, I like to be challenged, and if done right, scalable quests and instances can provide an equal challenge to a party or a soloist with equal rewards. It doesn't have to be a game designed for one or the other, we can coexist.
    You are outright questioning why all content shouldn't be soloable; why it shouldn't scale so that a solo player can do everything and it's not "group only".

    You do argue that it should balance nicely between grouping and solo and not be "one extreme or the other". However, that reads more like an attempt to soften your real issue, which is clearly voiced from the soloers point-of-view, and is slanted quite clearly in favor of soloing.

    To put it another way, let me ask you this question, and please answer it honestly.

    Would you be so moved as to create a thread like this one, making the statements you have, if FFXIV was made entirely soloable? Would you care at all if the game had no group-focused content at all? Would you still feel so compelled to voice your 'concerns'? Or would you be relieved that "finally" there's a game that fully supports your playstyle?

    I'm gonna take what I think is a safe bet here and say it wouldn't trouble you in the least.

    To sum it up, since I seem to have to every few posts: I do not think that everything should be soloable, nor do I think that FFXIV should change one bit to cater more to soloers.
    Now you're contradicting yourself.

    First you ask why all content shouldn't scale so that it can be done solo. Now you're claiming that not all content should be soloable nor that FFXIV should cater more to soloers.

    Right... So what, then, is your actual complaint?

    Kinda hard to defend your position when you can't even argue it consistently. Why don't you take a moment and figure out what your position actually is, and then come back and try again when you've figured it out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Preypacer View Post
    Ahhh... Begging your pardon, but yes you did, in post #13 of this thread you said the following - a direct copied-and-pasted quote - in response to a statement Dubont makes in post #6 about how FFXIV has solo content but is not going to be 100% soloable...

    Dubont: You: You are outright questioning why all content shouldn't be soloable; why it shouldn't scale so that a solo player can do everything and it's not "group only".

    You do argue that it should balance nicely between grouping and solo and not be "one extreme or the other". However, that reads more like an attempt to soften your real issue, which is clearly voiced from the soloers point-of-view, and is slanted quite clearly in favor of soloing.

    To put it another way, let me ask you this question, and please answer it honestly.

    Would you be so moved as to create a thread like this one, making the statements you have, if FFXIV was made entirely soloable? Would you care at all if the game had no group-focused content at all? Would you still feel so compelled to voice your 'concerns'? Or would you be relieved that "finally" there's a game that fully supports your playstyle?

    I'm gonna take what I think is a safe bet here and say it wouldn't trouble you in the least.

    Now you're contradicting yourself.

    First you ask why all content shouldn't scale so that it can be done solo. Now you're claiming that not all content should be soloable nor that FFXIV should cater more to soloers.

    Right... So what, then, is your actual complaint?

    Kinda hard to defend your position when you can't even argue it consistently. Why don't you take a moment and figure out what your position actually is, and then come back and try again when you've figured it out.
    OHHHHHHHHHH SNAP!!!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amage View Post
    OHHHHHHHHHH SNAP!!!!!!!
    funny part is I posted the same thing 4 times to him and he still denied it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kilta_Firelotus View Post
    funny part is I posted the same thing 4 times to him and he still denied it.
    goooo B's btw
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