The Solo disease?

[DeadRiser]

I know you're talking more to the OP & why "solo onry", but as someone who does either, I find soloing a lot more fun in XIV. Some of the more entertaining fights I've been in were the newer NMs solo with a class that isn't capped. And even with leves or grinding you're getting to apply your full list of abilities rather than sneaking in a couple basic attacks and perhaps a weaponskill(like that nearby thread talks about). So far in XIV soloing offers much more fun for me. Of course that's all under the current battle system so that may change.

I guess I can see how XIV grouping could be fun for those who just love being in groups or those who think most efficient leveling = fun. For someone who wants fun out of the actual battle system it's quite the opposite.

Actually, the current battles system is pretty entertaining with a small group, like 4 people.
And yeah it would be fun to go out and do battle by yourself since no one is actually playing this game. Leves can pretty much all be solo'd. Hope they fix all this solo nonsense soon IMO

[Kilta_Firelotus]

Actually, the current battles system is pretty entertaining with a small group, like 4 people.
And yeah it would be fun to go out and do battle by yourself since no one is actually playing this game. Leves can pretty much all be solo'd. Hope they fix all this solo nonsense soon IMO

I agree, I'm actually getting bored soloing guildleves and finding out some places I'm needed to go have a few or large amount of agreesive mobs in the way. Like being r8 doing an r10 levequest for BTN and finding a r20 aggressive mob in my way. I'm like ok am I suppose to find an exsort or something?

[Leeloo]

Actually, the current battles system is pretty entertaining with a small group, like 4 people.
And yeah it would be fun to go out and do battle by yourself since no one is actually playing this game. Leves can pretty much all be solo'd. Hope they fix all this solo nonsense soon IMO

Yeah that's true. I made the comparison of me soloing vs what a lot of people do with behests and leve-links. The times I joined big leve groups I barely had to do anything which wasn't very fun. Same with behests. And really a soloer can fight easy things and do 1 star leves that negate any kind of challenge also. So the more accurate thing to say would be people who fight things well above their ranks & crank the stars up, solo or group, have the more entertaining battles.

[thedevilsjester]

And really a soloer can fight easy things and do 1 star leves that negate any kind of challenge also. So the more accurate thing to say would be people who fight things well above their ranks & crank the stars up, solo or group, have the more entertaining battles.

Speaking in terms of FFXIV I usually crank the stars as far as I possibly can. I consider "On Level" to be 1 star, and then every couple levels to be an additional star where 9-10 levels past the "On Level" is full stars. This is partially for the challenge, but also because you get much better exp for On Level or higher mobs. There are only a few exceptions where this doesn't work out very well (usually some odd levequest that is more difficult than the rest). I really love the levequest system for this. I can choose the amount of challenge I want, and get a reward equal to that challenge (i.e. more stars is more exp but harder)

To be fair, I liked CV back in the 8 bit era. SotN was good though.

I think that all the 2d CV games are amazing (8bit, 16bit, SoTN, DS). The 3d ones lack that CV feel although the newest PS3 CV is pretty fun.

Leves can pretty much all be solo'd. Hope they fix all this solo nonsense soon IMO

What is the problem with levequests being soloable? The less stars (i.e. the easier they are) the less reward and exp. That seems like a pretty fair deal to me. I definitely think that NM's and major instances need to be (at least) small group or more (solo makes no sense for those) but I do not see what the problem is with allowing soloers to tackle levequests. Its a great system that allows for many different play types without taking away from any other.

[Asmeret]

That's what he's been saying all along, and you still haven't taken the time to actually read any of his posts.

[Kilta_Firelotus]

That's what he's been saying all along, and you still haven't taken the time to actually read any of his posts.

Actually I have. He saids that under the flag of a soloist. but he isn't a soloist, just chooses to do those think while not being in a party which doesn't mean group persay.

But all in all I still think it is very rude to come to forum of an mmo say who you are, and stand on a soapbox and declare to everyone that you hate grouping, and avoid it whenever possible. That shouldn't have been said as it can be an insult to the community as a whole. He should have said that he PERFERS to not group. Not hate and avoid.

By the way he posted he deserved everything he got. And how he continues to question others. And I still do not buy in in hime not wanting group content to be soloable. If he didn't why bother asking? Or could have asked it in a way they didn't give off that feeling. Pretty much I'm saying the tone of the TDJ posts give off an arrogent aura. The starter posts. If he understands that some content will be more group based. The he should have said so instead of asking why. If he knows that he don't have to do that content, why make a stink about it. If he was asking to be curoius he should have stated it. And not seem to have a fit and question everyone who brought up group content. There are ways to go about things. In my honest opinion, TDJ went about things the wrong way, and continues to do so. He is to blunt, and can be considered rude in his posting.

If he wants us to understand his position, he should have avoidfed the words hate and avoid. And should have used perfer to.
And he shouldn't have attacked others posts for saying mmorpg are about grouping. That is what we are told be producers and developers. Groupingn isn't always "forming a party" it is being with other players. That is the OP fault he misunderstands that. When your in an LS your in a group. When your standing in Ul'dah with friends your in a group.

I hope this makes sence.

[Kilta_Firelotus]

Ok let me put it more simply. solo = alone. mmorpg = many players on at once. so you are never lone. unless you avoid people.

[Rentahamster]

Ok let me put it more simply. solo = alone. mmorpg = many players on at once. so you are never lone. unless you avoid people.

You should know perfectly well that the context the OP was talking about was completing battle and other content by himself. It doesn't have anything to do with chatting or player interaction outside of battle.

The stuff you keep arguing about is in a different context entirely and is off-topic.

[Kilta_Firelotus]

You should know perfectly well that the context the OP was talking about was completing battle and other content by himself. It doesn't have anything to do with chatting or player interaction outside of battle.

The stuff you keep arguing about is in a different context entirely and is off-topic.

Not arguing actually, more stating a fact. And again stating op isn't really a soloist like he thinks he is. He just chooses not to party which isn't the only way grouping is done.

And it is on topic, since OP is trying to make people understand him, yet he don't even understand what a soloist is.

Also from his Topic post he never stated content. that was brought up after. He pretty much only said (in many words) I hate grouping and avoid it. (which i an insult)

[Azurus]

LS are not grouping its a glorified chat room with people that happened to allow you past their red tape(i swear some LS make it feel like im applying for the FBI all over again o.O haha)