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    Quote Originally Posted by Molly_Millions View Post
    So, those 5 will have a large house with less effort than the other FCs. Thanks for proving my point.
    Huh? Generating FC points requires NO EFFORT, which is part of the problem. It's a numbers game. You can't put more effort into getting more points, you can only do so much.

    That only depends on what the price is for each house. We have an idea of what it is in terms of gil, but if it were changed to FC points, we don't know that the price would remain the same. So this argument makes a great assumption that 8 people would not be able to afford a large house no matter what.
    Way to ignore FC point disparity. If you want a purpose to your FC points, then the cost has to be tuned to the larger FCs because otherwise...you'd still have a ton extra. Thus removing any purpose driven design with your idea.

    Again, based on the same assumption as the above.
    How? Please tell me how I can get more FC points by "trying harder".

    Maybe. I do think large houses should be exclusive, just like in real life.
    LOL. Yes, because all of us want a game that reflects real life. That's why they are fun, because they mirror my life perfectly. Seriously, you need to think larger picture. Would making a large FC house cost 5 million gil make it not exclusive enough for you? What about all the things that you can put into the house. Isn't that the better frame to gauge exclusivity? After all, most servers will only have ONE FC that has even progressed far enough to have a chance of obtaining the Coil craft.

    Anyway, I'm done with you. You clearly aren't going to see any sort of logic. If you want me to flood the thread, I will. I'll take solace in knowing that Yoshi is in charge - not you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FinagleABagel View Post
    Huh? Generating FC points requires NO EFFORT, which is part of the problem. It's a numbers game. You can't put more effort into getting more points, you can only do so much.
    The amount of effort determines the speed at which they are gained. more work put in = more points in a shorter amount of time. Just like gil. As I said before, the only difference is the cap. in both cases the the cap is relative to the number of people in the FC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Molly_Millions View Post
    The amount of effort determines the speed at which they are gained. more work put in = more points in a shorter amount of time. Just like gil. As I said before, the only difference is the cap.
    The cap is what matters. You gain FC points by pretty much doing nothing. If you can't see the difference, I can't have a constructive conversation with you.

    Also, you don't have a cap on how much gil you can make in a day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FinagleABagel View Post
    The cap is what matters. You gain FC points by pretty much doing nothing. If you can't see the difference, I can't have a constructive conversation with you.

    Also, you don't have a cap on how much gil you can make in a day.
    Ah, but that's the thing, you don't earn FC points by doing nothing. Try it, form and FC and have every member just stand in town, you won't earn any points.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Molly_Millions View Post
    Ah, but that's the thing, you don't earn FC points by doing nothing. Try it, form and FC and have every member just stand in town, you won't earn any points.
    Good god, give me enough time to read over my posts and edit them for clarity. Still ignoring the cap issue, which is the primary difference and the crux of my argument.

    Fortunately, for gil generation you have to do MORE than what it takes to generate FC points and there's no cap. So its a significantly better frame for gauging individual effort.

    Basically, your argument is so poor that I see plenty of reasons to call your motives into question. I don't know why you think FC consolidation is such a good thing, unless you view it as a reflection of your own personal success in the game. I hate to inform you of this, but it's not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FinagleABagel View Post
    Good god, give me enough time to read over my posts and edit them for clarify. Still ignoring the cap issue, which is the primary difference and the crux of my argument.
    But you are ignoring that fact that we don't know that if this idea were put in place that the price would be out of reach for a small FC. The argument is based on conjecture. As such your point is moot, hence, why I am ignoring it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Molly_Millions View Post
    But you are ignoring that fact that we don't know that if this idea were put in place that the price would be out of reach for a small FC. Your point is moot, hence, why I am ignoring it.
    Ok, I'll be sure to post a picture of my small FC in a big house with the gil we collected to buy it. I encourage the 200+ other FCs on my server to do the same.

    Like I said before, small home ~800k. Unlike you, I'm actually using the facts currently available. You are doing some sort of magic hand waving. Sorry hun, but argument's don't work that way. I seriously doubt it will be more than 5x that value. Besides, if you've paid any attention at all, the dev team is extremely concerned about market effects. They aren't going to make a massive gil sink. It won't be anywhere near as expensive as you seem to think it will be. I bet any hardcore crafter could purchase the large home individually, given what we already know.
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