[DEV] Free Company Housing Purchasing Idea!!

[FinagleABagel]

It's the same thing with gil, tbh. You can replace the FC points with gil, and the same advantage/disadvantage exists. Honestly, what's with all the entitlement? The only thing this suggestion does is give us something to use all the FC points on that will go otherwise completely unused.

That's a RIDICULOUS statement. FC points are generated at a static rate solely based on the number of active players in the FC doing certain actions (aka leves, crafting, quests, raids, ect). Gil can be generated solely based on individual skill at market manipulation and time. There is barely a hard a cap unlike FC points.

The only person with a sense of entitlement seems to be you. Entitled to more because you have more people. There's no skill in that, there's no strategy in that, it's just sheer zerg mentality.

You could very easily have 8 people generate more gil than an 80 person FC.

I agree that FC points seems pretty pointless at the moment and there should be a system for using them. However, tying them to a system that is closely related to the market is a very stupid thing to do.

What if I told you that an 8 person FC had about 40 million gil individually and another 10 million gil in FC storage? Would you believe me?

[Molly_Millions]

You could very easily have 8 people generate more gil than an 80 person FC.

Only when 70ish people are sitting on their hands.

Clearly, the group with 8 should have to work a hell of a lot harder to keep up with the group with 80 making gil or FC points. It's really the same either way.

FCs are designed to be large. It's a free company, not a free platoon, or free squad. The limit is 512 people for an FC, and you can only have 1. That being the case, you know going in that you have a distinct disadvantage when joining or creating a small FC. Why would you think otherwise?

[FinagleABagel]

Only when 70ish people are sitting on their hands.

Clearly, the group with 8 should have to work a hell of a lot harder to keep up with the group with 80 making gil or FC points. It's really the same either way.

FCs are designed to be large. It's a free company, not a free platoon, or free squad. The limit is 512 people for an FC, and you can only have 1. That being the case, you know going in that you have a distinct disadvantage when joining or creating a small FC. Why would you think otherwise?

Wrong again. Let's try this. Tell me how FC points are generated. You need to stop comparing gil generation to FC point generation, they are vastly different.

Your whole theory doesn't fit into the game design. There's a reason why link shells exist, why there's no maintenance on housing or FCs....it's so that smaller groups can interact with a larger population without forcing smaller groups to constantly grow.

[Galliano]

FC points seems pretty pointless

Nice wording

[dcdistro]

we have 2,900,000 points and we kick in-actives weekly. we had 1 million points in the first month which is easily attainable by a moderate sized free company with semi active members we are just a casual free company. Recruiting low level players should be encouraged to help them out and keep the blood fresh expand your and their experiences of what community is about and working with people from different cultures and regions as it is the meaning behind mmo's is working as a community. I wasn't aware of gaining points for inactivity members as we remove them from our group if they return at a later date we re-invite them to our free company but we always try to maintain active members and community. The patch won't be out for about a month you should be able to easily be able to get 1 mil points are retain 24/7 experience buffs we have been able to since launch. If the inactivity points gain is true i really hope that SE changes that. What I was informed and believed was the points were gained through fates, dungeons experience gained through battle, gathering and crafting and still believe that.

the points were just a reference to work with not a set in stone number just an idea
SE could take a gauge and examine the free company housing credits people have and gauge it accordingly so could be 250k/500k/1 mil for example
SE also stated that there will be free company quests coming out so possibly free companies would also gain free company credits similar to how we gain seals in fates for example.

[Elemia]

I'm gonna disagree with your idea purely on the basis of you putting [DEV] in the title of the thread

[dcdistro]

point is if you want to waste your gil i would think your crazy if you can do it and use it for something else on something you could do with a little work just like farming myth gear or dl gear you cant buy your stuff well i think it should be the same way with land plots for companies who worked harder should get nicer plots, not saying that necessarily gets you a large house you still have to build / craft / buy houses but you can only build a house respective to the size of the land plots. Free company housing and personal player housing is different so to me it should be treated a bit differently. Anyone can spam ak/wp and sell philo items and make 200k a day thats not work thats just mindless grind. Free companies are about community and you gain the housing points by helping and working with a large and active community / free company population.

Waste your money on personal housing f you want to show off how much gil you have but reward free companies for what they are supposed to be for community and working together in large groups they didn't make them support 512 members to hold 5 thats what linkshells are for. Go out run dungeons help new members do quests, dungeons etc and your points will go through the roof i know we done it and have been doing it since release. and will breach 3 million points probably tonight its by helping people and thats what an mmo is supposed to be all about but people get lost in the instant gratification era and forget what a little work and working together is all about.

[JayCommon]

Anyone can spam ak/wp and sell philo items and make 200k a day thats not work thats just mindless grind.

Every job I have ever held IRL is a mindless grind. Are you trying to tell me that wasn't work? My employers would love to hear that because then they would stop paying me...

Regardless if you think it's easy to do, it is still work grinding AK/WP to profit from tome sales. No job I have ever had was 'hard'. They have all mostly just been tedious, which is exactly what grinding dungeons is. And if anyone can do it, why don't they? Because it's a lot more WORK that needs to be done than just typing it in a sentence. Nowhere in the definition of the word 'work', is the word 'hard' found. Nor is the word 'team' found.

I understand what your trying to say, but don't supplement your thesis with nonsensical beliefs. Technically I do what you are talking about every day. I have helped about 15 people in my FC with learning dungeons and how to play their jobs. We don't grind stupid FATEs because those teach you nothing. In effect, while teaching my FC mates dungeons, I have earned a lot of money from selling tomes because I was full DL a lot faster than them. Now, I only run dungeons with FC mates, and normally we switch groups every night so everyone has a chance to group with everyone else. I am 'helping people', in your terms of a proper MMO, daily. Just because an FC can hold 512 people does not mean you HAVE to have 512 people. Right now, there is no need to have more than 24 people if you want to be technical. Linkshells can have far more people in them than 5 people as well, so you don't get to 'determine' what a LS is for and a FC is for. I made my FC and I'll be damned if I'm told how to run it. Plain and simple.

The more you argue your points the less I like your idea. It just seems like you want to be held at some kind of super elite status because of the size of your FC. I'm not trying to put you on blast personally, but with each of your posts I have liked your idea less and less. Sorry if you feel offended, but you don't defend your points very well.

I will be in a mansion with my FC because 20-25 of us WORKED TOGETHER and made millions of gil in order to purchase it. I'm sorry that you have 3 million FC points with nothing to spend them on. That's SE's fault, not the entire community to suffer because they don't have 400 people in their FC. Honestly, I don't want 400 people in my FC anyway.

Which brings me back to the silliest point you made. An MMO is still a game. Just because you are playing it with others doesn't mean you have to play it a certain way. Games are for fun. If someone is having fun playing alone in a world of people, it isn't for you to decide or chastise that person for not playing the same way you do.

[FinagleABagel]

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Amen brother. Well said. Bravo.

[Dotem]

Using FC points to purchase FC housing removes RMT from the equation. That's good enough for me.