Quote Originally Posted by Cailae View Post
If you really wanted to see toxic, you needed to be at the competitive end of content, particularly endgame. People organizing Dynamis shells and splitting with millions of gil worth of currency, LS leaders raiding banks, having to have an extra party at fafhoggs spawn to deal with repeated mpk attempts with darters if you got claim, rampant bot use, rival shells trying to steal your pop any way they could... It was at least as disgusting as anything i have seen in this game, and often moreso. One thing that will always stick with me and the reason why I will always scoff at anyone saying that FFXIs community was so much better; my LS was in the process of killing Fafnir, while a rival LS taunted us and were trying to steal claim. my LS leader said something along the lines you guys might want to watch it we already called a GM, and a member of the other LS said he might want to watch as he skull-****ed his mother.

This community is no better, and certainly no worse.
The thing with land kings and other HNM is that while it certainly was competitive and short-tempered, it also only affected a couple of dozen players per server. The vast, vast majority of players never even went into Dragon's Aery.

As for endgame, the linkshells on each server would actually set up rotas for when each would go into Dynamis - Xarc or Dynamis - Beau. Can you even imagine that kind of gentleman's agreement in XIV?

Internal linkshell dramas like bank raiding or drop favouritism isn't in my opinion a community issue, it was an LS issue. It didn't affect anyone outside the LS and there advice then was simply 'find a linkshell with decent leaders'.

In XIV I've seen tanks shout at healers/DPS to 'Die. Just go outside and suck on a tailpipe. Seriously', the players were rarely even underperforming. You know what you would get if you underperfomed in a levelling party in XI? Some advice, maybe some free food. If you still didn't learn, that person might put you at the bottom of their personal invite list if they saw you seeking again. Oh, the horror.

See also: Tanks/Healers withdrawing from DF looking for in progress groups that are past the demon wall. Personal insults if you can't manage a speed run. Mercshells sabotaging DF Titans to drum up business. People dropping from Ifrit because no PLDs/SMNs/BLMs etc. Ilevel 90 requirements for entry endgame raids. People AFK'ing CM runs. New players being stuck for days at Westwind/NM primals because no-one will stop to help them.

The elitist part of XI affected only a tiny percentage of the community, who were all more or less equally to blame (they gave as good as they got). The toxic community in XIV ARR assaults you as soon as you log in until you've gritted your teeth through your Coil/myth for that week and logged out.