Titan is hard because your camera isn't zoomed out, not because of server-side delays

[Allyra]

Or remember which attacks or next and move ahead of time, thats how I avoid most plumes, especiallyy when I run opposite of the other players.

You can't move ahead of time when it comes to things like landslide, because you could be moving INTO the landslide. Which has happened to me before because the game didn't show me where it was in real time.

[Tupsi]

You can't move ahead of time when it comes to things like landslide, because you could be moving INTO the landslide. Which has happened to me before because the game didn't show me where it was in real time.

The only time you know if you're moving into landslide is if you decide to move from where you are into the path where someone gets hate in the direction you run - Btw, did you know? The ground under titan slightly behind him darkens when he's about to use an ability? Also as for your sig, you clearly lost a lot of packets to their servers, that definitely hasn't happened to anyone in the 60+ Titan's I've helped with thus far.

[Amberion]

The only time you know if you're moving into landslide is if you decide to move from where you are into the path where someone gets hate in the direction you run - Btw, did you know? The ground under titan slightly behind him darkens when he's about to use an ability? Also as for your sig, you clearly lost a lot of packets to their servers, that definitely hasn't happened to anyone in the 60+ Titan's I've helped with thus far.

Is not loss of packets there. If it where, you would not see anyone else starting a new skill while it happens.

[Allyra]

Btw, did you know? The ground under titan slightly behind him darkens when he's about to use an ability?

Did it occur to you that if the game isn't going to update the landslide...it isn't going to darken the ground either?

Also as for your sig, you clearly lost a lot of packets to their servers, that definitely hasn't happened to anyone in the 60+ Titan's I've helped with thus far.

So since you didn't see it happen, it must not exist? How is this relevant?

What happens in my sig (which isn't me btw, someone else posted a link to a youtube vid of it happening) can happen ten times in a titan fight alone. The thing is, you are only going to notice it during landslide. You aren't going to know it's happened to people during say stomps, since everyone is getting hit by that anyways.

There are more than enough people voicing that this is happening (and not just on the OF) to say this isn't some rare situation.

[Sebazy]

What happens in my sig (which isn't me btw, someone else posted a link to a youtube vid of it happening) can happen ten times in a titan fight alone.

I've made close to 10 mill from selling titan kills, I also help with the server's titan kill shell so I've run it enough times to be pretty qualified on this.

Learning aside, every plume I've eaten has been my own fault due to being greedy with a cast, not thinking ahead far enough or simply not moving quickly enough and wasting valuable time not moving in a straight line etc. I only found myself eating lines when I got muddled on bombs and didn't position myself right. For reference I'm in the UK and with BT (An isp which is known for having p2p throttling issues with FFXIV) and I don't use any VPN or the like.

As said before, the gif in your sig is most likely packetloss from the client to the server, most likely a shared connection, queue for regular titan whilst uploading to youtube and you'll get exactly the same thing. Whilst yes, this encounter punishes a subpar connection harshly, you can't really hold SE responsible for the wonder that is the internet. WoW had exactly the same issues with the Hagan safety dance, the difference there was that the movement was simplistic and far easier to remember.

[Allyra]

As said before, the gif in your sig is most likely packetloss from the client to the server, most likely a shared connection, queue for regular titan whilst uploading to youtube and you'll get exactly the same thing. Whilst yes, this encounter punishes a subpar connection harshly, you can't really hold SE responsible for the wonder that is the internet. WoW had exactly the same issues with the Hagan safety dance, the difference there was that the movement was simplistic and far easier to remember.

I am not denying it is packet loss. Find where I said otherwise. And yes, you can hold SE responsible to get them to work with the companies to stop this issue. I did not have these issues in WoW, WAR, TERA, RIFT, AION, EQ2, FFXI, STWOR, etc. etc. (I like to try everything).

Trying to put the blame on me is ridiculous.

[Asmodeus]

I've made close to 10 mill from selling titan kills, I also help with the server's titan kill shell so I've run it enough times to be pretty qualified on this.

Learning aside, every plume I've eaten has been my own fault due to being greedy with a cast, not thinking ahead far enough or simply not moving quickly enough and wasting valuable time not moving in a straight line etc. I only found myself eating lines when I got muddled on bombs and didn't position myself right. For reference I'm in the UK and with BT (An isp which is known for having p2p throttling issues with FFXIV) and I don't use any VPN or the like.

As said before, the gif in your sig is most likely packetloss from the client to the server, most likely a shared connection, queue for regular titan whilst uploading to youtube and you'll get exactly the same thing. Whilst yes, this encounter punishes a subpar connection harshly, you can't really hold SE responsible for the wonder that is the internet. WoW had exactly the same issues with the Hagan safety dance, the difference there was that the movement was simplistic and far easier to remember.

With that line there in red you kind of lose all credibility when speaking about this issue, it's a blatant conflict of interest. I mean if they did fix this you would lose a major source of income.


Fact is building in a 300ms delay on positioning on top of the various "lag" people get in mmos is ludicrous especially in a game where they

... punish slow movement .....

and you need to actively dodge attacks.

[Sebazy]

With that line there in red you kind of lose all credibility when speaking about this issue, it's a blatant conflict of interest. I mean if they did fix this you would lose a major source of income.

Quite the jaded view there, I'm almost hurt

I sold titans so I could afford the melds I needed to be ready for Twintania at almost 200k a pop. I wasn't in it to stockpile huge hoards of gil and hence I stopped once I had what I needed, you did see the part where I added that I help Ragnarok's attack on titan linkshell right? Whilst I openly admit I don't mention that I'm a former seller for fear of the inevitable drama, I put every bit as much effort into the free runs as I did the 700k specials.

and you need to actively dodge attacks.

That are 100% scripted and entirely predictable.

Memorising the script is a big part of the challenge.

[Asmodeus]

Quite the jaded view there, I'm almost hurt

I sold titans so I could afford the melds I needed to be ready for Twintania at almost 200k a pop. I wasn't in it to stockpile huge hoards of gil and hence I stopped once I had what I needed, you did see the part where I added that I help Ragnarok's attack on titan linkshell right? Whilst I openly admit I don't mention that I'm a former seller for fear of the inevitable drama, I put every bit as much effort into the free runs as I did the 700k specials.



That are 100% scripted and entirely predictable.

Memorising the script is a big part of the challenge.

If you had been following the various threads you would know we have addressed what you claim, memorizing a pattern that doesn't ever change does not equal skill. Skill isn't about doing the achy breaky dance rotation starting at a certain point. Skill is about knowing how to deal with attacks regardless of when they come at you.

What we have here is a cheesy sad attempt at making things "hardcore".

Perhaps you mean well but you are hurting this cause and that is about it.

[Sebazy]

I'm guessing a big chunk of that list is from pandatown as I don't know a bunch of them =( Fair point though!