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    Player Alerith's Avatar
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    Alerith Rayneheart
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    I dunno what issues everyone else seems to be having. Whenever I've been hit by landslide, it's almost always been because of my own error. I rarely get hit by them because of lag and even then it's because of my own connection failing me. Every other time, when I haven't messed up, I've been able to dodge just fine.

    Results not typical? Perhaps. But the fact remains that nobody likes to feel stupid or admit their mistakes and "lag" is a convenient excuse for some people to use considering how it actually does affect others. (I'm not saying the lag doesn't exist, only that there are a large number of incompetent players using it as an excuse.)
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    Player Bizniztyme's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alerith View Post
    I dunno what issues everyone else seems to be having. Whenever I've been hit by landslide, it's almost always been because of my own error. I rarely get hit by them because of lag and even then it's because of my own connection failing me. Every other time, when I haven't messed up, I've been able to dodge just fine.

    Results not typical? Perhaps. But the fact remains that nobody likes to feel stupid or admit their mistakes and "lag" is a convenient excuse for some people to use considering how it actually does affect others.
    Yeah, I've been in groups where someone in the party gets hit by landslide and automatically they bust out "Man I was totally out of that" when me and other people noticed that in fact they moved to late. With that said, I don't doubt some people have lag issues but people blaming the lag when they clearly messed up is getting out of hand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bizniztyme View Post
    Yeah, I've been in groups where someone in the party gets hit by landslide and automatically they bust out "Man I was totally out of that" when me and other people noticed that in fact they moved to late. With that said, I don't doubt some people have lag issues but people blaming the lag when they clearly messed up is getting out of hand.
    You are not going to see the person move during a lag spike, or sometimes my fc people will see me run in place instead of actually moving out. The lag means that the servers aren't registering your movements, so the game is obviously not going to display those movements to the others playing the game.
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    Player Bizniztyme's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allyra View Post
    You are not going to see the person move during a lag spike, or sometimes my fc people will see me run in place instead of actually moving out. The lag means that the servers aren't registering your movements, so the game is obviously not going to display those movements to the others playing the game.
    But i'm not getting any lag spikes and I clearly see them trying to get out of the plumes are landslide or whatever. I see clearly that they are not out of the clear but low and behold, their first response was "man that lag sucks". I'm not saying it doesnt exist because I do see it but people are using it as an excuse when they do get hit way to often when it's actually not the case to save face.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bizniztyme View Post
    But i'm not getting any lag spikes
    This is irrelevant. You see what the game sees, the game isn't seeing these people moving because of the spike, so you won't see it either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allyra View Post
    This is irrelevant. You see what the game sees, the game isn't seeing these people moving because of the spike, so you won't see it either.
    I've seen people dying out of the Weight of the Land, flying in wrong directions after the Land Slide, getting bombed while at my side...

    Honestly, I don't judge anyone who dies there. The netcoding's slugginess really shows at that place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ri_ri View Post
    Honestly, I don't judge anyone who dies there. The netcoding's slugginess really shows at that place.
    Ya that's all I ask for when it comes to players. Rather than pointing fingers and just claiming "you suck!" Better to actually add your voice to our issue and help us push where we need to push to get this resolved. Getting it fixed will also help those that don't get the lag because it means less titan wipes. :3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allyra View Post
    You are not going to see the person move during a lag spike, or sometimes my fc people will see me run in place instead of actually moving out. The lag means that the servers aren't registering your movements, so the game is obviously not going to display those movements to the others playing the game.
    This. I don't know what to say but on my connection sometimes it's super smooth and other times well not. What do I do? I know the rotations and make sure I'm ready to move just before they start so I shave off that little bit of time between me seeing the animation and my body responding. On those nights I have to do that, I'll notice tons of people getting hit by landslide but when I look at their health bars they're fine. Then all of a sudden their character moves really fast out of the way. Can't see how it can be my connection cause I normally only notice this in dungeons. Not when I'm out doing normal fights out in maps like fates or chimera.
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    Kazek Natasch
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bizniztyme View Post
    Yeah, I've been in groups where someone in the party gets hit by landslide and automatically they bust out "Man I was totally out of that" when me and other people noticed that in fact they moved to late. With that said, I don't doubt some people have lag issues but people blaming the lag when they clearly messed up is getting out of hand.
    You do realize that maybe on their screen they moved and then the server has to update and it shows them still in and running at the wrong moment? It still lends evidence of server lag. Ive seen cases in AK where someone was purely running all the time and still got hit, thier char was rubberbanding before our eyes.

    So yes, there is an issue. Im sorry, its just an elephant in the room. But im glad you can get through it all with no issues. I however KNOW that people are having legit probs.
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    Player Bizniztyme's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArcheustheWise View Post
    You do realize that maybe on their screen they moved and then the server has to update and it shows them still in and running at the wrong moment? It still lends evidence of server lag. Ive seen cases in AK where someone was purely running all the time and still got hit, thier char was rubberbanding before our eyes.

    So yes, there is an issue. Im sorry, its just an elephant in the room. But im glad you can get through it all with no issues. I however KNOW that people are having legit probs.
    Look, I didnt say it's not an issue, all I'm saying is that alot of people are using it as a crutch. You going to tell me that simply isnt true?
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