Quote Originally Posted by SwordCoheir View Post
Well it's a matter of perspective, allowing WAR's to build Wraith faster lowers the downtime spent rebuilding stacks and allows you more opportunities to self heal with IB reducing the stress on healers. Lowering Unchained's recast will increase opportunities for DPS for sure but it also increases opportunities for reactive healing because of higher hate thresholds (even if SE sucks) and lowers time spent fighting mobs.

But then again that's just my take on it, I'm not trying to scale everything to something that's stupid broken like SC was in 1.0, but having more opportunities for self healing does allow you to keep your own HP up and going more consistently instead of being forced to hold back all the time for "oh crap" moments seems kind of backwards progress to me.
You miss the point. If 100% of WAR mitigation comes from self heals then they aren't scaling with content because Tank DPS doesn't scale as fast as monster DPS does.

For a WAR to currently be on the same level as PLD in terms of mitigation their self healing would need to increase by a factor of nearly 4. That would mean nonsense like Inner Beast healing for 1000% of the damage dealt which would be "stupid broken like SC was in 1.0."

And trading off tank survivability for DPS only matters if a) you have the throughput to heal them for the duration of the fight, and b) the tradeoff in DPS is high enough to offset the increased healing required to keep them up, i.e. if they take 20% more damage they end the fight 20% sooner. But for that to happen, WAR would need to have roughly the same damage as a DPS job tacked onto them while tanking, which would put them at a higher DPS level than any of the DPS jobs which, again, would be stupid broken.

As an aside, lowing Unchained's recast time does nothing to improve healing received because unchained doesn't increase the damage of Inner Beast for one, and for two actually getting off an inner beast in unchained requires the usage of a secondary cooldown (infuriate).

Neither would benefit the WAR and would just leave them as a sub par tank"