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    Quote Originally Posted by BloodLotus View Post
    Some kind of jump?

    Not sure if you understand but the point of the 2 jump options is either "Unlimited Jumping" where you could jump anywhere and anytime you want or "Limited Jumping" where you could only jump at specific locations at specific times. If there wasn't a need for the limited jump option people wouldn't have liked it and would have liked the unlimited option instead and vice versa.

    The fact that both jump options got liked means that people disagree on what kind of jumping should be available if implemented

    Meowy has a point, however the people that liked both jumping options are probably only a handful.
    Yes, I understand the 2 different jumping options. But if one wanted to look at the poll as pro-jump vs anti-jump they simply need to add the 2 jump votes together. Makes sense to me...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilhelmina View Post
    All I think of when I read about people who are against the addition of a feature to this game is a hipster. Why would you act negatively toward a great addition to a struggling game, what do you have to gain from acting that way? People who don't want more features deserve the original crappy FFXIV they were tricked into buying.
    Great addition how? Nobody has said anything that makes jumping necessary or logical other than "I want it" or "all the new MMOs have it."

    Scaling cliffs? You can do that already, making it a jump/fall animation rather than a strange spiderwalk doesn't change anything.

    There is no use for a jump right now.

    And I still would prefer the kind in FFXIII They could all really cool jumping animations for those.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilhelmina View Post
    All I think of when I read about people who are against the addition of a feature to this game is a hipster. Why would you act negatively toward a great addition to a struggling game
    Because it's not a great feature? It's not going to save the game? There's other important additions that can be added? Like Content and Battle/Class(job) system revisions?

    What I don't get is why people think you just slap the feature in and it'll just instantly do everything. It's like slapping down a gun in an FPS without programming the ability to have it shoot.
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    Wow the people on this forum are dense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilhelmina View Post
    Wow the people on this forum are dense.
    You're right.

    I want my pet dog in the game because it's a new feature and all new features automatically make the game better even if they serve no purpose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilhelmina View Post
    Wow the people on this forum are dense.
    on both sides of the arguement they are
    ive stated it befoer

    Jump is coming, period, regardless of what anti jump people want
    Jump is a very low priority right now and is not coming anytime soon no matter how much you beg and whine, regardless of what pro jump people want

    and there are alot of people who just dont seem to understand either of those points

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    on both sides of the arguement they are
    ive stated it befoer

    Jump is coming, period, regardless of what anti jump people want
    Jump is a very low priority right now and is not coming anytime soon no matter how much you beg and whine, regardless of what pro jump people want

    and there are alot of people who just dont seem to understand either of those points
    I find your post hypocritical.

    No one knows for sure that it will or will not be in.

    Examination of the implementation of jumping(moved from Current Tasks as lower priority)
    *Implementation dependent upon risk analysis
    Something to think about regarding their risk analysis.

    How much money will it take to implement jump? Time is money right?
    So it would take time to...
    Code jump into the game (this includes whatever model changes are needed along with the button presses)
    Get the motion captures for jump
    Change whatever environment changes need to be made.
    = Will spending this much time on jump bring in positive reviews and more subscribers?

    Versus

    Not implementing jump and spending that time to create (pick one)
    bigger dungeons
    better fights
    more nms
    more loot
    more jobs
    more classes
    more story quests
    more class quests
    changes to crafting
    changes to gathering

    What will people pay for?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BloodLotus View Post
    I find your post hypocritical.

    No one knows for sure that it will or will not be in.



    Something to think about regarding their risk analysis.

    How much money will it take to implement jump? Time is money right?
    So it would take time to...
    Code jump into the game (this includes whatever model changes are needed along with the button presses)
    Get the motion captures for jump
    Change whatever environment changes need to be made.
    = Will spending this much time on jump bring in positive reviews and more subscribers?

    Versus

    Not implementing jump and spending that time to create (pick one)
    bigger dungeons
    better fights
    more nms
    more loot
    more jobs
    more classes
    more story quests
    more class quests
    changes to crafting
    changes to gathering

    What will people pay for?
    The people who would be working on the addition of jumping don't do most of what you just listed. I assume, unless they fired EVERYONE, certain people are assigned to do certain tasks on their dev team. Unless SE has one guy working on FFXIV all alone...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arik View Post
    Perfect solution.

    They can handle jump the same way they handle auto-follow.
    When I 2-box, Character A is followed by Character B. When character A stops moving, character B stops moving on Character A's screen, but is running in place on Character B's screen. I'm not 100% positive, but this is probably because Character B isn't changing positions on the x-y plane...so there is no need to display a running animation on any other clients.
    If SE was to make jump be a "z" function on an x-y-z plane, they could configure it so that players could either choose to see the "z" plane movement or not. This way, if you want to see jumping, you can do so. If you don't want to see jumping, you don't have to. I mean, we already see ridiculous clipping when players run up and around small hills, so the clipping produced from players that would be jumping wouldn't be all that different.

    If you want to jump, you can jump.
    If you don't want to jump, you don't jump, and you configure your client to not see other players jump.

    Just my 2 cents.

    Later all...go Yoshi!!
    It's brilliant. The hoppers could be frogs and the rest of us don't have to see boing boing boing all day. <3 this idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilhelmina View Post
    The people who would be working on the addition of jumping don't do most of what you just listed. I assume, unless they fired EVERYONE, certain people are assigned to do certain tasks on their dev team. Unless SE has one guy working on FFXIV all alone...
    It's not just about the people.

    It's about the resources.
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