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    Quote Originally Posted by Leeloo View Post
    How is voting for an option that reads = not being for jump?
    Read Nabiri's post again.

    I'm sure you'll get it eventually.
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    @Leeloo: I'm sorry you didn't understand. I explained it as well as I possibly could have.

    @BloodLotus: Thank you. ^^ I'm usually not very good at explaining things. I hope it helps some people.
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    2 say I WANT jumping
    1 says I DON'T WANT jumping

    Sure there may be particulars about the kind of jumping you'd like to see or are willing to deal with, but voting for something that says "I WANT" jumping says "I'm for jumping" to me -shrugs-
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leeloo View Post
    2 say I WANT jumping
    1 says I DON'T WANT jumping

    Sure there may be particulars about the kind of jumping you'd like to see or are willing to deal with, but voting for something that says "I WANT" jumping says "I'm for jumping" to me -shrugs-
    What kind of jumping do you want?
    Mario (push a button to jump) = Unlimited
    Wind Waker (walk up to a ledge and automatically jump) = Limited
    No jumping at all.

    This is the reason for the 3 options and this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BloodLotus View Post
    What kind of jumping do you want?
    Mario (push a button to jump) = Unlimited
    Wind Waker (walk up to a ledge and automatically jump) = Limited
    No jumping at all.

    This is the reason for the 3 options and this thread.
    Nevermind...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leeloo View Post
    2 say I WANT jumping
    1 says I DON'T WANT jumping

    Sure there may be particulars about the kind of jumping you'd like to see or are willing to deal with, but voting for something that says "I WANT" jumping says "I'm for jumping" to me -shrugs-
    No, they don't. And they shouldn't be taken that way as it's misleading. They say "limited" and "unlimited."
    If suddenly the "limited" option was taken away, many more votes could go into "no jump" for all we know.

    The poll results do not simply express "jump or no jump." It's just a tiny bit more complicated than that.
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    Last edited by Nabiri; 05-23-2011 at 06:06 PM.

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    it is just hard to explain this to people who never study on this field to understand.

    But basically, when someone want to make a good poll, there is a method for each case to make thing most fair (for research purpose), and also method to make thing most unfair (for business purpose)

    This poll just happen to be kind of the second purpose I mention, either you wished for that or not.

    To make thin most fair in this case : (you can go ask your teacher/professor to confrm if you know any)

    Because there is 3 choice we want : black, white-grey, and grey.

    The type of poll that is the most suitable for this is to make score for each choice: Then, allow player put what they want most in order from 3 score, 2 score, and 1 score. (If SE want to make a poll, their poll maker will use this style)

    However, I know that this forum not allow it, so the best choice we have is to do it in 2 thread : want jump or not first. and then divide between jump later. Hope you understand what I want to point out.

    Me personally is not against anybody or any choice, I just see this unfair, so I point this out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alise View Post
    it is just hard to explain this to people who never study on this field to understand.

    But basically, when someone want to make a good poll, there is a method for each case to make thing most fair (for research purpose), and also method to make thing most unfair (for business purpose)

    This poll just happen to be kind of the second purpose I mention, either you wished for that or not.

    To make thin most fair in this case : (you can go ask your teacher/professor to confrm if you know any)

    Because there is 3 choice we want : black, white-grey, and grey.

    The type of poll that is the most suitable for this is to make score for each choice: Then, allow player put what they want most in order from 3 score, 2 score, and 1 score. (If SE want to make a poll, their poll maker will use this style)

    However, I know that this forum not allow it, so the best choice we have is to do it in 2 thread : want jump or not first. and then divide between jump later. Hope you understand what I want to point out.

    Me personally is not against anybody or any choice, I just see this unfair, so I point this out.

    I see your point, but how many people who voted for limited jumping would vote no jumping for the reasons outlined throughout the entire thread?

    Those like myself who wouldn't mind a middle ground would have to vote for no jumping when that wasn't what I wanted exactly. The gray area lets me express the kind of jumping I personally and apparently a few others wouldn't mind being implemented in the game.
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