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  1. #111
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    Avatar de Powercow
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    mars 2011
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    Powercow Cowcow
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Pugiliste Lv 100
    Citation Envoyé par Leonas Voir le message
    Good luck, hope you don't get MRD like the poor MNKs did.
    Hey, it used to be Gladiator back in beta. At least MRD gets bloodbath, fracture, and mercy stroke. GLD's best thing was Convalescence.
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  2. #112
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    Avatar de ChaozK
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    aot 2013
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    Character
    Baal Mirtaq
    World
    Shiva
    Main Class
    Chevalier dragon Lv 100
    Citation Envoyé par Leonas Voir le message
    Sounds like they'll be switching the subclass out from lancer to something worthless like they did for MNK in beta. MNK had Archer subclass, but they switched it since raging + blood for Blood was too strong I guess. 10 to 1 This happens for BRD. Good luck, hope you don't get MRD like the poor MNKs did.
    Same for dragoons. They used to have archer as cross class which was great for raging strikes and straight shot and now they have MRD.
    That being said fracture and mercy stroke arent too shabby, considering its coming from a tank.
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  3. #113
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    Avatar de Leonas
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    Leonas Dias
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    Faerie
    Main Class
    Pugiliste Lv 50
    Citation Envoyé par ChaozK Voir le message
    Same for dragoons. They used to have archer as cross class which was great for raging strikes and straight shot and now they have MRD.
    That being said fracture and mercy stroke arent too shabby, considering its coming from a tank.
    Ooooops. I actually meant DRG instead of MNK there. I dunno where my brain went.

    Anyhow. BRD is probably the only class with two USEFUL subclasses, well, that I played or my wife has. I kind of think they'll switch out LNC from BRD's subclass set and probably make some of its better attacks a cast time.

    Hell, its even possible that they mgiht put a cast time on songs and leave the attacks as they are. Either a mildly long cast time or worse, make songs channeled so you have to stand in place and do nothing else except song. However, they'd need to increase song gain on MP/TP etc from that. /shrug
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    Dernière modification de Leonas, 20/10/2013 à 09h41

  4. #114
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    Avatar de Klutz64
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    Alma Wyndsong
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Pugiliste Lv 50
    They could always just fold the Bard's DPS role into its Support role by giving them a party-wide damage buff.
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  5. #115
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    Avatar de Leonas
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    Leonas Dias
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    Faerie
    Main Class
    Pugiliste Lv 50
    Citation Envoyé par Klutz64 Voir le message
    They could always just fold the Bard's DPS role into its Support role by giving them a party-wide damage buff.
    They can't exactly do that don't think, or they'll have to give them a unique que slot as support instead dps.
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  6. #116
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    Avatar de Leon_Stormrage
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    Character
    Leon Stormrage
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Arcaniste Lv 50
    Citation Envoyé par mushashi Voir le message
    so the dude with only one char to lvl 50 and 0 coild done is harrassing to teh dude with 5 char to lvl 50 and ALL coil done,great come to cry here because u wont can play the bard now with only one macro
    I don't use macros and I want to be more involved more in fights, maybe adding a cast time in blood letter or decreasing our damage while moving.
    I only say that if any class is having less dps than a bard is not playing kite well.....
    And btw having 5 classes 50 and turn 4 of coil doesn't prove anything
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    Dernière modification de Leon_Stormrage, 20/10/2013 à 09h54

  7. #117
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    Avatar de Lecreuset
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    Character
    Leera Myr
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 50
    You really want that cast timer on bards eh? We're not WoW hunters, Stormrage
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  8. #118
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    Avatar de Leon_Stormrage
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    Character
    Leon Stormrage
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Arcaniste Lv 50
    Citation Envoyé par Lecreuset Voir le message
    You really want that cast timer on bards eh? We're not WoW hunters, Stormrage
    Haha I think that is a good idea instead Nerf our damage but we will see what SE do with this =P
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  9. #119
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    Avatar de Misaky
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    aot 2013
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    Character
    Misaky Darkwalker
    World
    Shiva
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 50
    Citation Envoyé par Leonas Voir le message
    Ooooops. I actually meant DRG instead of MNK there. I dunno where my brain went.
    Anyhow. BRD is probably the only class with two USEFUL subclasses, well, that I played or my wife has. I kind of think they'll switch out LNC from BRD's subclass set and probably make some of its better attacks a cast time.
    Hell, its even possible that they mgiht put a cast time on songs and leave the attacks as they are. Either a mildly long cast time or worse, make songs channeled so you have to stand in place and do nothing else except song. However, they'd need to increase song gain on MP/TP etc from that. /shrug
    I always tout it was weird for monk and lancer not have the archer skills... anyway, i think it would be much more fair if they just made monk/lancer get the skills from archer instead of marauder.

    Btw.. the songs already got a cast time, and is a big one.

    edit: scholar and whm also got the 2 best sub-classes they could ever had!
    scholar goes grab swift-cast from blm and the wall from whm.
    whm goes grab swift-cast from blm and virus from arcanist.
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    Dernière modification de Misaky, 20/10/2013 à 10h14

  10. #120
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    Avatar de Supersun
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    juin 2013
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    Character
    Felix Feliday
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Arcaniste Lv 70
    Citation Envoyé par Misaky Voir le message
    I always tout it was weird for monk and lancer not have the archer skills... anyway, i think it would be much more fair if they just made monk/lancer get the skills from archer instead of marauder.

    Btw.. the songs already got a cast time, and is a big one.

    edit: scholar and whm also got 2 good sub-classes!
    scholar goes grab swift-cast from blm and the wall from whm.
    whm goes grab swift-cast from blm and virus from arcanist.
    And Smn gets Swiftcast from Blm and Raging Strikes from Arc.
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