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    Player
    Vies's Avatar
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    V'ies Nies
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    Leviathan
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    Marauder Lv 48
    While I'm indifferent in regards to bard damage output, wouldn't it be better to wait and find out just what the devs are going to do before going off on knee-jerk temper tantrums? Nerfs are never good for the people playing a class, but before you know just what's going to happen, calm down. It might not end up being as bad as you're expecting. Don't be so negative all the time, you might get more enjoyment out of life.
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    Mushashi Miyamoto
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    Moogle
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    Lancer Lv 50
    yay finally after everybody is sick of bards opness yoshi have got it right.
    now come here bards criying on so many post as bards was fine and they could be the best dps with mroe utility and 0 restrictiona nd ut ought that it was fine.
    bards op yoshi have told it period cry now
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    Leonas's Avatar
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    Leonas Dias
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    Faerie
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    " While any one of the content can be beaten with any class/job, currently, certain jobs are able to do much more damage than the other jobs due to having access to a certain cross-class abilities. We do have plans to adjust these cross-class abilities to balance out all the jobs. "

    Sounds like they'll be switching the subclass out from lancer to something worthless like they did for MNK in beta. MNK had Archer subclass, but they switched it since raging + blood for Blood was too strong I guess. 10 to 1 This happens for BRD. Good luck, hope you don't get MRD like the poor MNKs did.
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    When all is lost,
    All is in vain.
    When Good and Evil,
    Unite in pain.
    Rivers of swords must join as one,
    Only then shall the spell be undone.

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    Powercow Cowcow
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    Excalibur
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    Pugilist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Leonas View Post
    Good luck, hope you don't get MRD like the poor MNKs did.
    Hey, it used to be Gladiator back in beta. At least MRD gets bloodbath, fracture, and mercy stroke. GLD's best thing was Convalescence.
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    If someone wins an argument, they have learned nothing.

    FOR DOCKHAND!

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    ChaozK's Avatar
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    Baal Mirtaq
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    Shiva
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Leonas View Post
    Sounds like they'll be switching the subclass out from lancer to something worthless like they did for MNK in beta. MNK had Archer subclass, but they switched it since raging + blood for Blood was too strong I guess. 10 to 1 This happens for BRD. Good luck, hope you don't get MRD like the poor MNKs did.
    Same for dragoons. They used to have archer as cross class which was great for raging strikes and straight shot and now they have MRD.
    That being said fracture and mercy stroke arent too shabby, considering its coming from a tank.
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    Leonas Dias
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    Faerie
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by ChaozK View Post
    Same for dragoons. They used to have archer as cross class which was great for raging strikes and straight shot and now they have MRD.
    That being said fracture and mercy stroke arent too shabby, considering its coming from a tank.
    Ooooops. I actually meant DRG instead of MNK there. I dunno where my brain went.

    Anyhow. BRD is probably the only class with two USEFUL subclasses, well, that I played or my wife has. I kind of think they'll switch out LNC from BRD's subclass set and probably make some of its better attacks a cast time.

    Hell, its even possible that they mgiht put a cast time on songs and leave the attacks as they are. Either a mildly long cast time or worse, make songs channeled so you have to stand in place and do nothing else except song. However, they'd need to increase song gain on MP/TP etc from that. /shrug
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    Last edited by Leonas; 10-20-2013 at 09:41 AM.

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    Volux Er'drexus
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    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 44
    Quote Originally Posted by Leonas View Post
    " While any one of the content can be beaten with any class/job, currently, certain jobs are able to do much more damage than the other jobs due to having access to a certain cross-class abilities. We do have plans to adjust these cross-class abilities to balance out all the jobs. "

    Sounds like they'll be switching the subclass out from lancer to something worthless like they did for MNK in beta. MNK had Archer subclass, but they switched it since raging + blood for Blood was too strong I guess. 10 to 1 This happens for BRD. Good luck, hope you don't get MRD like the poor MNKs did.
    If they switch out lancer then we lose invigorate and are really fcked
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    ChaozK's Avatar
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    Baal Mirtaq
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    Shiva
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Volux View Post
    If they switch out lancer then we lose invigorate and are really fcked
    Well it would make Paeon a lot more useful. They might as well just get rid of the dmg penalty on Paeon imo.
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    Rain Arrows
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Leonas View Post
    Sounds like they'll be switching the subclass out from lancer to something worthless like they did for MNK in beta. MNK had Archer subclass, but they switched it since raging + blood for Blood was too strong I guess. 10 to 1 This happens for BRD. Good luck, hope you don't get MRD like the poor MNKs did.
    That is exactly what I think they are going to do. LNC will no longer be a sub-class so they can take away "Blood for Blood". +40% damage increase on top of the DEX buff from Hawk's Eye is pretty powerful. I did just spend a lot of time leveling LNC just to get Blood for Blood so that will piss me off that I wasted all that time now...but I guess I could live with that if they don't give us stupid cast times or lower overall damage. Then they should be giving us CNJ back as a sub class so we can heal and support again.
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    Playing since Beta phase 3

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    Morri Umi
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    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 60
    As someone who is playing and gearing both a Bard and Monk in endgame it makes no difference to me whatsoever I'm still going to take my Bard into Coil and Monk to Crystal Tower. That warm fuzzy feeling I get when I save the group from wiping by using Mage's Ballad at the right times is why I play Bard, the high DPS is just the bonus
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