[dev1008] Petition to have Jumping implement

[Abriael]

I would love to have scalable terrain and platforming elements that use jump. It will probably never happen in this game, though.

probably because this game (thank goodness) is a MMORPG, and not a platformer.

Super Mario galaxy -> that way.

[Onidemon]

probably because this game (thank goodness) is a MMORPG, and not a platformer.

Super Mario galaxy -> that way.

Yet 90% of mmorpgs have jumping.... besides.. hmmm... FFXI and FFXIV?

[Abriael]

Yet 90% of mmorpgs have jumping.... besides.. hmmm... FFXI and FFXIV?

And? Should we demand starships and aliens because other MMOs have it?

I'm waiting for those valid arguments too against jump as well...

You can read back on the multiple threads (some of which opened by the same troll that quite obviously thinks that his issues are much more important than anyone else's and deserve multiple places to be discussed, lol) on this topic and find plenty.

Again, the fact that an argument isn't valid *for you* has absolutely no bearing on it's actual validity. No one is here to convince you, as convincing you, or any other random forum poster, is absolutely inconsequential.

[Onidemon]

And? Should we demand starships and aliens because other MMOs have it?

90-95% of mmos have starships and aliens? That's some news to me, Goddamn we should too then! The empire in FFXIV sure has the technology for it and aliens(Jenova FFVII) is not unheard of in a FF game. Another invalid argument.

You can read back on the multiple threads (some of which opened by the same troll that quite obviously thinks that his issues are much more important than anyone else's and deserve multiple places to be discussed, lol) on this topic and find plenty.

Again, the fact that an argument isn't valid *for you* has absolutely no bearing on it's actual validity. No one is here to convince you, as convincing you, or any other random forum poster, is absolutely inconsequential.

Why would i read back when i have someone against Jumping right here trying to make his point but is yet to provide me with a single argument against jumping.

Dude just give it up you lost that battle...

[Abriael]

90-95% of mmos have starships and aliens? That's some news to me, Goddamn we should too then! The empire in FFXIV sure has the technology for it and aliens(Jenova FFVII) is not unheard of in a FF game. Another invalid argument.

Again, i'm sorry, you're not the judge of the validity of an argument. Sorry to burst a bubble

Why would i read back when i have someone against Jumping right here trying to make his point but is yet to provide me with a single argument against jumping.

because that someone has posted such arguments multiple time, and he doesn't need to repeat them for your sake, especially due to the fact that your opinion on the matter is completely inconsequential to what will be implemented or not in the game. Convincing you or any other random forum poster with very selective reading abilities is of zero importance.

Dude just give it up you lost that battle...[/B]

Oh really? and I lost it because you say so?

Looking at the producer letter looks like we're winning that battle, and that's exactly the reason why you're raging

[Onidemon]

Again, i'm sorry, you're not the judge of the validity of an argument. Sorry to burst a bubble

I'm not judging, just using common sense. No bubble bursted don't worry!

because that someone has posted such arguments multiple time, and he doesn't need to repeat them for your sake, especially due to the fact that your opinion on the matter is completely inconsequential to what will be implemented or not in the game. Convincing you or any other random forum poster with very selective reading abilities is of zero importance.

There is no need to repeat those fabled valid arguments against jumping yet you repeated what, 3 times now that there is arguments somewhere instead of telling me what these arguments are and end this debate. Wow...

Oh really? and I lost it because you say so?

I'm just following your logic, you seem to think we shouldn't have jump because you and some other people say so.

Looking at the producer letter looks like we're winning that battle, and that's exactly the reason why you're raging

You talk about selective reading, yet Yoshi-P wrote that it's on low priority for now, which makes sense as the core gameplay mechanics are broken and need fixing asap. And you read what? "Jumping features is abolished" lol....

[Abriael]

I'm not judging, just using common sense. No bubble bursted don't worry!

Unfortunately your common sense is hardly common. As this thread and others clearly shows. Your mistaking your own biased opinions as common sense, which is quite hilarious to see.

There is no need to repeat those fabled valid arguments against jumping yet you repeated what, 3 times now that there is arguments somewhere instead of telling me what these arguments are and end this debate. Wow...

it's much faster, and more fun, to see you run in circles and try to bite your tail, while failing to aknowledge the fact that people have posted plenty arguments, and that they're no less valid than yours (actually more, mind you).

I'm just following your logic, you seem to think we shouldn't have jump because you and some other people say so.

Nope. We shouldn't have jump because many people evidently dislike it, and what the developers are actually doing right now (removing collision detection on cliffs) makes jumping completely obsolete and useless with this game's level design.

You talk about selective reading, yet Yoshi-P wrote that it's on low priority for now, which makes sense as the core gameplay mechanics are broken and need fixing asap. And you read what? "Jumping features is abolished" lol....

No. I read that not only jumping has been downgraded in priority, but it's implementation is also clearly stated as something that's not a given. It's getting further away, and very possibly it won't happen at all. Looks like things look quite bleak for the jumping fans, and quite obviously, looking at your heated posts in which you attack people on a personal level and mistake your own opinion as absolute fact, this is causing you to rage your heart out.

Oh, just for the record, bolding your posts doesn't make your arguments more solid. Might wat to write like everyone else instead of flying in the face of the most basic notions of netiquette.

[Elexia]

Yet 90% of mmorpgs have jumping.... besides.. hmmm... FFXI and FFXIV?

They have jumping, but you know what else they lack?

Exploration through Jumping.

Ability to dodge enemy attacks.

So while "90%" have jumping that's all it is...jumping. No exotic use for it.

[Tezz_Xivectro]

They have jumping, but you know what else they lack?

Exploration through Jumping.

Ability to dodge enemy attacks.

So while "90%" have jumping that's all it is...jumping. No exotic use for it.

I actually pray we don't have to jump around to evade. Actually, if added, we shouldn't be able to jump while in combat.
Exploration on the other hand sounds fun.

[DeadRiser]

They have jumping, but you know what else they lack?

Exploration through Jumping.

Ability to dodge enemy attacks.

So while "90%" have jumping that's all it is...jumping. No exotic use for it.

Well yeah you can't have dodging by jumping if a game's combat won't let you.. especially if they are going back to auto-attack.
Elexia, you are so funny