[dev1008] Petition to have Jumping implement

[Leeloo]

I haven't seen any compelling arguement against jump beside

- 'Jump is totally not FF like!! No FF has ever had jump and thats the reason it should stay that way!' or Cause FF was never innovative and in fact they have released the same exact game over and over again with new graphics, cause it worked and thats the way it was and it was FF!!! ???

- 'I dont want to see everyone jump like bunnies!!!1'
*watch out, once we have the jump ability all will turn to easter bunnies and jump just to irritate YOU. Cause people have nothing better to do like have fun or do things in game etc*
and the best reasons yet...

- 'it breaks my immersion' . . . . lol

Seriously. Let there be jump. Get over your hate of the most successful MMO - WOW and please don't think putting things in the game are stealing it from wow. Some things should standard in the gaming market today. Wow was not the first game with jump, and its definitely not the only one.

Game is fine without jump, hence people wanting it should be making the arguments for it. Not the other way around.

And mostly I see children stomping their feet screaming "Gimme jump!!" Why? "Because I want to jump!!" After that your only arguments are insults to FF & XI players or pulling the WoW persecution card. Like I said previously, retarded & whiny.

[Benji]

Considering the chart is plans up to SUMMER 2011 and Summer starts in about a month...I'm liking the looks of 1.17b and 1.18. I think this game is finally hitting the point where it'll be really fun to play.

[Ceons]

If it doesn't impact your game play, why take a stance against it?

[Abriael]

No jumping thank you. A further removal of environmental collision detection (allowing us to climb/drop cliffs everywhere) makes jumping completely obsolete and useless for anything else than griefing.

The implementation of jumping dropped to low priority and possibly being completely ruled out is one of the best news in this producer letter.

besides, there are already plenty threads on the topic. Maybe you should have posted in those.

[Sonic_the_Hedgehog]

Let me say I'm not against jumping if they implemented it I would be ok with it, but I don't think it's more important than the other things they're working on right now. Let's get the things that matter out of the way first.

[Demacia]

I don't like the whole WoW style jumping but I can't blame people for wanting it with the awful map design we have.

[Abriael]

I don't like the whole WoW style jumping but I can't blame people for wanting it with the awful map design we have.

Which can be solved much more conveniently (and in a much less annoying way) by further removing environmental collision detection where it doesn't make sense, giving the ability to climb cliffs and drop down from them.
Which is exactly what they're doing, mind you.

[Onidemon]

Which can be solved much more conveniently (and in a much less annoying way) by further removing environmental collision detection where it doesn't make sense, giving the ability to climb cliffs and drop down from them.
Which is exactly what they're doing, mind you.

I really wish i could see someone give a valid, intelligent argument against jump other then "it's annoying" or bunnies and wtv.... People for jumping gave more then enough reasons on why we should have it and it all made sense and was well thought out.

So in my book it's people for jumping 1, people against jump 0. Until someone makes a valid argument that is.

[Abriael]

I really wish i could see someone give a valid, intelligent argument against jump other then "it's annoying" or bunnies and wtv.... People for jumping gave more then enough reasons on why we should have it and it all made sense and was well thought out.

Unfortunately for this absolutely silly statement, the fact that an argument isn't valid for you doesn't make it less valid.

Plenty valid, compelling and intelligent arguments have been made against jumping. You not liking them has no bearing at all on their validity.

So in my book it's people for jumping 1, people against jump 0. Until someone makes a valid argument that is.

See, fact is that your book is completely inconsequential. The dev's book is what matters, and quite evidently, given the drop in priority of the implementation of jumping, the very clear possibility that it will never be implemented, and the fact that they're instead tweaking environmental collision detection (as many that are against jumping suggested) as a much more convenient feature, it's people for jumping 0, people against jump 1.

Sorry to burst a bubble. Oh wait... I'm not really THAT sorry, mind you.

[Onidemon]

Unfortunately for this absolutely silly statement, the fact that an argument isn't valid for you doesn't make it less valid.

Plenty valid, compelling and intelligent arguments have been made against jumping. You not liking them has no bearing at all on their validity.



See, fact is that your book is completely inconsequential. The dev's book is what matters, and quite evidently, given the drop in priority of the implementation of jumping, the very clear possibility that it will never be implemented, and the fact that they're instead tweaking environmental collision detection (as many that are against jumping suggested) as a much more convenient feature, it's people for jumping 0, people against jump 1.

Sorry to burst a bubble. Oh wait... I'm not really THAT sorry, mind you.

You talk a lot yet i don't see any of those fabled valid arguments, and there i was getting excited i would see one in that wall of text.

The dev put it as a low priority simply because if you have to chose between jumping and the battle system/jobs etc it's quite clear which deserves more attention at the moment.

So I'm still waiting to see those arguments that are supposedly "there" and that will make me say "hmm... yeah that kind of makes sense."