[dev1008] Petition to have Jumping implement

[Rhianu]

Jumping is not really a game breaker... I'm going to assume most played FFXI if your playing FFXIV and prolly for awhile... couldn't jump then why jump now... you can't jump in ANY FF game! go back to WoW or something i like the game the way it is =P well sorta

Actually, it is very much a game breaker. The inability to jump was annoying as hell in FFXI, too. The FF games have needed the ability to jump ever since the series went truly 3D with FFX. They were able to get away without a jump button in the PS1 games because those were more psudo-3D as opposed to the actual 3D that we didn't see until the PS2 games. A game that has 3D graphics and 3D environments should not have 2D character movement!

And yes, you can jump in some of the offline FF games. FFX-2 has a context-sensitive jump/climb button, FFXIII has auto-jumping all over the place, and then Dirge of Cerberus and FFXIII-2 both have a specifically designated jump button. So for you to go around claiming that you can't jump in any FF game just makes you look ignorant, because you can.

But regardless, complaining that you don't want jump is pretty dumb when it's already been confirmed that SE is indeed going to add it to the game eventually. Maybe it won't come until Version 2.0, which is fine by me, but it's still coming regardless. Might as well get used to the idea and stop bitching.

Those are offline games where jumping abuse doesn't hurt other people's immersion.

Don't be dumb. Jumping doesn't ruin anyone's immersion. And if it does, then that person needs to grow the hell up. If someone gets annoyed at something as simple as jumping, that's a problem with the person, not a problem with the game.

Personally, I don't get annoyed at all when I see people jumping in other MMOs. What annoys me is the people who complain about the jumpers. It's like they're just looking for something inane to whine about.

When you hit that wall you couldn't climb over, if they gave you the ability to jump, they'd have to make a bigger wall. No jumping is SE's way of having a wall, but it not being a huge wall, and thus more ascetically pleasing.

You mean they'd have to make walls that are actually of a size significant enough to make them believable barriers? Oh no! How horrible would it be to have believable barriers in the world instead of stupid ledges that don't feel believable as barriers at all! What ever would we do!?

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Your argument about appealing to aesthetics is bullshit, by the way. There is nothing inherently more aesthetic about a short ledge as opposed to a high wall. Neither one is any more visually pleasing than the other as far as aesthetics are concerned.

[TheVedis]

there's the ultimate small ledge at north of Camp Horizon which only 0.5 foot height and you can't walk over it!!

so go around, dont be lazy

you act like its the end of the world for everything you dont get your way

[Elexia]

from the 10th letter, it's look like they are not going to implement Jumping/falling system because they thought it's a lower prioritys

It is a lower priority. It's worthless and useless for this game, now you even have Yoshida feeling as such. Face it, Jumping has zero use in this game especially with the collision changes they're conducting.

[Evangela]

I'm sick of these oldschool people who holding back the game to continue being oldschool game for them and against every ideas to make the game step forward

[Elexia]

I'm sick of these oldschool people who holding back the game to continue being oldschool game for them and against every ideas to make the game step forward

Yoshida likes PvP and Jumping yet he himself says it's low priority and basically unneeded currently.

So I assume you're also blaming him for holding the game back? Besides, you're an idiot if you think Jumping will progress this game compared to..oh...say content and land expansion.

[Vesperia]

Yoshida likes PvP and Jumping yet he himself says it's low priority and basically unneeded currently.

So I assume you're also blaming him for holding the game back?

He's a pushover who does whatever the looudest voice tells him to. He saw you guys whining about not liking jump and was like "okay then, I dont want to step on any toes" and then he decided to focus on "I dont want to spam 111" whiners.

And hence auto-attack was born.

So of course we are blaming Yoshi. But by extension, we are blaming the whiners who puppeteer his strings.

[Mack]

He's a pushover who does whatever the looudest voice tells him to. He saw you guys whining about not liking jump and was like "okay then, I dont want to step on any toes" and then he decided to focus on "I dont want to spam 111" whiners.

And hence auto-attack was born.

So of course we are blaming Yoshi. But by extension, we are blaming the whiners who puppeteer his strings.

Lol you sound so unbelievably pathetic. Maybe when you grow up you'll laugh at yourself but in the meantime everyone else here will laugh at you.

[Sojiro]

Yoshida likes PvP and Jumping yet he himself says it's low priority and basically unneeded currently.

So I assume you're also blaming him for holding the game back? Besides, you're an idiot if you think Jumping will progress this game compared to..oh...say content and land expansion.

Lol seriously. No they're right, gotta get that jump in there. Who cares there isn't a ton of stuff to do in game, jumping makes up for that! Instead of doing a new dungeon with my LS, we can all hop up and down in ul'dah! WOW THATS WAY MORE FUN THANKS! God how can SE prioritize silly not needed things like, content, a new battle system, and all those other minor things instead of the game saving ability to jump!?!?! This...is an outrage!

[Anty]

Yoshida likes PvP and Jumping yet he himself says it's low priority and basically unneeded currently.

So I assume you're also blaming him for holding the game back? Besides, you're an idiot if you think Jumping will progress this game compared to..oh...say content and land expansion.

jumping would need so much more resources (which i think they don't have), since the game wasnt designed for it and i bet the landscape is even more boring if you find some "hidden" empty places you just jumped onto.
If the landscape was /will be designed for it, im all for jump though. But atm its not much more then jumping around on a VERY restricted terrain. Swimming would be worse (i love swimming and diving if its implemented right), since you would just swim around in the already artificially looking jelly-water...

[Elexia]

Pretty sure a lot of people disliked the battle system, and unlike players they have backend data and he says that the Battle System is one of the foundations of the game that needs to be changed if he wants to change other things.

Ever since Alpha people disliked the battle systems.