Speed-running cut-scene skippers...

[Noahlimits]

Thats the biggest load of rubbish ive seen on the forums yet.

Speed runs should be pre made only you dont have the right to spoil the storyline for another player because you want to rush it and compleat as fast as you can

Thanks for telling all the speed run players how they should HAVE to play. If you read the post, I'm not saying people shouldn't view cutscenes. View them all you want. I'll just happily go with the other 6/7 members of the party and clear the trash and bosses while you do so.

[Alhanelem]

Thanks for telling all the speed run players how they HAVE to play. If you read the post, I'm not saying people shouldn't view cutscenes. View them all you want. I'll just happily go with the other 6/7 members of the party and clear the trash and bosses while you do so.

or you could EASILY join a shout PUG for it and go with people who all have the same goal rather than ruin the fun of others just because you're lazy.

In an official post SE recognized the disconnect between people running the same dungeon with different goals. There is a problem here and one that SE has acknowledged.

[Noahlimits]

or you could EASILY join a shout PUG for it and go with people who all have the same goal rather than ruin the fun of others just because you're lazy.

Or you could EASILY join and shout a PUG that views all cutscenes because you want everyone to wait for you. Works both ways, right?

[Cubester]

Simplest solution.

-% Tomes for each cutscene you skip in the 8 man story dungeons. Skip all cutscenes and only get 25% Tomes at the end of the run.

Eliminate any desire to speed run those two and herd the people who can't do math on the fly to figure out which queue is more efficient to the "new" options that will come.

*hides*

That's not a bad idea. But you know what I would like to know? Why do people have to be rewarded in order for them to be nice to others?
Why can't people just be nice and patient on their own without needing some sort of incentive?

[Teykos]

That's not a bad idea. But you know what I would like to know? Why do people have to be rewarded in order for them to be nice to others?
Why can't people just be nice and patient on their own without needing some sort of incentive?

If people knew the answer to that, you wouldn't hear stories about a raid member being read his Miranda rights over voice chat in the middle of a raid and suddenly losing connection.

[AlexiaKidd]

I think if SE gave a bonus to having new players in the dungeon it would sort things out. If a new player who has not completed the dungeon joins you get a 50% bonus in Tomes but the C/S's are unskippable, that would make up for the lost time and also new players would get to watch them without being hassled to skip.

If however you have a party that has completed the dungeon then C/S's should be auto skipped and get the normal reward amount.

Also to stop AFKers they should have it setup so you only get the reward by exiting the instance at the end within a time limit of the boss dying.

[Cubester]

Or you could EASILY join and shout a PUG that views all cutscenes because you want everyone to wait for you. Works both ways, right?

No, it doesn't. YOU want to run the dungeon in a way it was not intended to be run. Therefore the burden is on YOU to form a premade group for your run. Not to mention there are probably more disgruntled 50's running around making it a lot easier for you to form a group outside of DF than it is for story runners...

[Noahlimits]

No, it doesn't. YOU want to run the dungeon in a way it was not intended to be run. Therefore the burden is on YOU to form a premade group for your run. Not to mention there are probably more disgruntled 50's running around making it a lot easier for you to form a group outside of DF than it is for story runners...

The minute they made the end game dungeons the best available source of Tombs, they MADE it intended to be speed ran. And regardless of what you, me, or anyone else says, there will always be people who watch the cutscenes (which is fine), and those who finish the dungeon without them.

Blame game design for end game stories giving tombs.

[SupaCancerion]

I think the answer to this cutscene-skipping fiasco is for SE to adjust the rewards system so that people don't have to run the dungeons a million times to get what they want.

[LunarEmerald]

No, it doesn't. YOU want to run the dungeon in a way it was not intended to be run. Therefore the burden is on YOU to form a premade group for your run. Not to mention there are probably more disgruntled 50's running around making it a lot easier for you to form a group outside of DF than it is for story runners...

Usually it's the case of 6 or 7 people wanting to speed run and 1-2 being new to it. It's more YOU wanting to slow the group down with your cutscenes.