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  1. #181
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    Currently Samfisher
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    Quote Originally Posted by LunarEmerald View Post
    This analogy is awful.

    A better one would be: Are you proud of yourself for passing the test by studying rather than copying off someone else's paper?
    The problem with this is that a test is you and you alone while Titan isn't. It's dependent on 7 other people who didn't/can't do the stuff you can so you have to go elsewhere to do it.
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  2. #182
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    texhnolyze's Avatar
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    Zen Endymion
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    Tonberry
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    Quote Originally Posted by samfisher View Post
    The problem with this is that a test is you and you alone while Titan isn't. It's dependent on 7 other people who didn't/can't do the stuff you can so you have to go elsewhere to do it.
    how about this, a basketball team (well it's 8 not 6, but still a team)
    you can't beat a high rated high school team with your school's mediocre team, but you can beat them easily if you join a professional NBA team

  3. #183
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    Nim Loki
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    Quote Originally Posted by sasakusaku View Post
    And this is main reason why people buy kills. No one gives others a chance to learn an encounter; mess up a few times results in getting kicked/get called names. And what does the person that got kicked learn? NOTHING.

    If anti-titan kill buyers are willing to have patience and train people how to do the encounter...maybe it would not (apparently) be such a huge problem. But no; insto kicked, labeled a baddy, and never given a chance.
    Why don't you read all my posts before jumping to conclusions?


    Quote Originally Posted by Sephirah View Post
    I never said it was a 1 strike your out deal. I'll always explain the fight to anyone who isn't familiar, and callout things they should be avoiding. If after 3 or so attempts they still aren't getting it, sorry buddy, but you're out.
    I'm all for helping people learn the fight, but what you need to understand is there is a limit. If we have a whole group trying to get relics, and I have explained the fight to you several times, called out what to avoid, and you continue to fail, then yes, you will get replaced. You can't just say "keep me in here forever because I'm learning".

    Quote Originally Posted by sasakusaku View Post
    And using that method of getting a kill this fellow listed is called; cycle players in and out until you get a team to carry you. Certainly cheaper route but in the end quite similar.
    The only way they are similar is Titan ends up dead.

    I fail to see your logic in comparing "hey you guys are overgeared and can do this easily, will you beat this for me if I give you 500k" and a group that tries over and over, replacing weak links when they're found until the entire team is capable. And somehow think they are the same.

    Honestly logic like that just makes it sound like you're so ashamed of buying your run that you're convincing yourself that legitimate runs by not overgeared players are basically just them looking for 7 other people in relics to carry them and invite them individually, which is not the case. When everyone is doing their part, nobody is being "carried", unless you consider the entire party carrying itself, being carried.
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    Last edited by Sephirah; 10-08-2013 at 01:19 PM.

    http://youtu.be/gGJPq1qmtrk - PLD Controller Tanking AK with no UI video

  4. #184
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    Lucipurr's Avatar
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    Estrella Light
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crescent_Dusk View Post
    Don't buy it. If you have this skillset to begin with I have to wonder why you're not in a FC with competent people to begin with.
    I rather not join an FC full of elitists that only talk about Bahamut or anything only end game related.
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  5. #185
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    texhnolyze's Avatar
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    Tonberry
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucipurr View Post
    I rather not join an FC full of elitists that only talk about Bahamut or anything only end game related.
    Quote Originally Posted by Lucipurr View Post
    Stop generalizing.
    you're also generalizing
    perhaps you've joined that kind of FC, i feel sorry for you
    but not all FCs are like that

  6. #186
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    Timothy Valente
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    Anyone willing to help someone suffering latency related doom and death repeatedly on Balmung? I move, I get blasted by the circle some distance behind me, or the circle appears and I don't have enough time to even dream of moving if I'm not already running full speed. Since I'm a healer, I die, then everyone else dies, and I feel bad, then we do it again, and again, until everyone gives up. I've repeated this many times.
    I've had land slides that I've side stepped and ran -half the stage- along it towards titan, to somehow get smacked. It's maddeningly infuriating.

    Make the hurting stop. I have mostly DL equipment, and I know the rotation, it doesn't help, nothing helps.
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  7. #187
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    Gamina Karstark
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valente View Post
    Anyone willing to help someone suffering latency related doom and death repeatedly on Balmung? I move, I get blasted by the circle some distance behind me, or the circle appears and I don't have enough time to even dream of moving if I'm not already running full speed. Since I'm a healer, I die, then everyone else dies, and I feel bad, then we do it again, and again, until everyone gives up. I've repeated this many times.
    I've had land slides that I've side stepped and ran -half the stage- along it towards titan, to somehow get smacked. It's maddeningly infuriating.

    Make the hurting stop. I have mostly DL equipment, and I know the rotation, it doesn't help, nothing helps.
    ^ This. I'm on Ragnarok and this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5g4T...ature=youtu.be is a daily occurrence for me.
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    Last edited by Gamina; 10-09-2013 at 12:31 AM.

  8. #188
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    Kaslin Highwind
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    It's a great idea, I wouldn't pay it, but who are you to tell them no ?
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  9. #189
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    Azaradi Gargio
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valente View Post
    Anyone willing to help someone suffering latency related doom and death repeatedly on Balmung? I move, I get blasted by the circle some distance behind me, or the circle appears and I don't have enough time to even dream of moving if I'm not already running full speed. Since I'm a healer, I die, then everyone else dies, and I feel bad, then we do it again, and again, until everyone gives up. I've repeated this many times.
    I've had land slides that I've side stepped and ran -half the stage- along it towards titan, to somehow get smacked. It's maddeningly infuriating.

    Make the hurting stop. I have mostly DL equipment, and I know the rotation, it doesn't help, nothing helps.
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ent%21-Oct-8th
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  10. #190
    Player Yurikitty's Avatar
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    Yuri Shineko
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    I don't see why you should shame other people who bought Titan. Maybe they are in a casual FC, maybe (true story) they have done 213 Titan runs with no wins because people fail, maybe they just have lots of cash to spare but little time. Maybe you should let people play how they want to play and not call them on it, because in the end what they do with there time and money in game is there 15$ worth, not yours.

    Titan runs are funding players who in turn buy back into there own community, works just like real life, crazy!
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