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  1. #11
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    Pathetic's Avatar
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    Puhthetic Fool
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    Malboro
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Ever thought pple don't buy run cuz they want to get carried but instead they just want to buy competent pple who actually could dodge that shit.
    (7)

  2. #12
    Player Crica's Avatar
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    Carpe Noctum
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    Excalibur
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Sephirah View Post
    I agree, it's sad to see our own community turning what was an amazing achievement into something as trivial as "who has 500k?".

    Relics are relics for a reason, they should be extremely hard to obtain, and if you aren't willing to focus and do what is required to earn them, well then you shouldn't have a relic.

    I take a little comfort knowing that 80% of the people doing this are going to get bored due to "lack of content" and will quit in about a month.
    if you personally are not willing to help the players for free, why should they not pay to get help?

    right now, can YOU help ME beat titan HM for FREE?

    if not, im going to pay SOMEONE ELSE for help, its that simple
    (2)

  3. #13
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    Nim Loki
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    Leviathan
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Crica View Post
    if you personally are not willing to help the players for free, why should they not pay to get help?

    right now, can YOU help ME beat titan HM? if not, im going to pay SOMEONE ELSE for help, its that simple
    If you were on Hyperion, I absolutely would.
    (8)

    http://youtu.be/gGJPq1qmtrk - PLD Controller Tanking AK with no UI video

  4. #14
    Player Crica's Avatar
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    Carpe Noctum
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    Excalibur
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Sephirah View Post
    If you were on Hyperion, I absolutely would.
    im not PAYING to transfer for help when i can just PAY to get help on the server im on
    (2)

  5. #15
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    LunarEmerald's Avatar
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    Lunar Emerald
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    Leviathan
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    Reaper Lv 90
    I've been seeing a lot of near full AFs lately with relics. All but one or two pieces are AF with level <50 rings. Pretty obvious to me that they bought a kill.

    As for it not affecting you, it kind of does. If you see a player with a relic, you'd expect them to be decent. Since they had to kill all the HM primals to get it. But if someone bought it, they might still be awful. In other words: their gear will be misleading. You might party up with them for Coil or something only to discover that they're terrible. This could become a problem once Crystal Tower is released and people are expecting the ilevel requirement to filter out the bad players. With so many people buying Titan kills, you'll be seeing a lot of unskilled players with high gear that will ruin groups.
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    Last edited by LunarEmerald; 10-07-2013 at 06:55 AM.

  6. #16
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    Sephirah's Avatar
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    Nim Loki
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    Leviathan
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Crica View Post
    im not PAYING to transfer for help when i can just PAY to get help on the server im on
    I'm not telling you to transfer, I was just saying that your assumption people won't help you for free is wrong. Start your own group, tell people if they fail they will be removed and replaced, rinse and repeat until you have a winning team.
    (5)

    http://youtu.be/gGJPq1qmtrk - PLD Controller Tanking AK with no UI video

  7. #17
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    Kyriea's Avatar
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    Kyriea Nova
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    Odin
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Sephirah View Post
    I'm not telling you to transfer, I was just saying that your assumption people won't help you for free is wrong. Start your own group, tell people if they fail they will be removed and replaced, rinse and repeat until you have a winning team.
    "If they fail they will be replaced" - This is the mindset that is driving people to buy their wins. There are very few people willing to teach people. 1 mistake and you're out. I'm not saying everyone is like that however enough are like it. Admittedly people are incapable of winning and that's fine, if they really can't get it then you don't want to be held back and if they are under-geared then that's fine. However people need to understand that you can't just enter something like Titan for the first time and play flawlessly, even the best people can fail once or twice.
    (18)

  8. #18
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    Lygrin Noban
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    Hyperion
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    Fisher Lv 50
    If people think titan is hard, well, its doing its job. weeding out the bads so we don't have to bring them to coil.

    Even if they bought it, who cares, they'll still be bad regardless if they have it
    (5)

  9. #19
    Player Crica's Avatar
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    Carpe Noctum
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    Excalibur
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Sephirah View Post
    I'm not telling you to transfer, I was just saying that your assumption people won't help you for free is wrong. Start your own group, tell people if they fail they will be removed and replaced, rinse and repeat until you have a winning team.
    lol... im not using ppl till i get help that can do it... ill just pay ppl for their time that CAN do it
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  10. #20
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    Evangela Monterossa
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    Balmung
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    Ninja Lv 90
    Will you proud of yourself for buying a car with your hard earned money instead of creating a car by yourself?

    I see nothing wrong.
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