Stop Buying Titan Kills

[Sephirah]

if you personally are not willing to help the players for free, why should they not pay to get help?

right now, can YOU help ME beat titan HM? if not, im going to pay SOMEONE ELSE for help, its that simple

If you were on Hyperion, I absolutely would.

[Crica]

If you were on Hyperion, I absolutely would.

im not PAYING to transfer for help when i can just PAY to get help on the server im on

[Sephirah]

im not PAYING to transfer for help when i can just PAY to get help on the server im on

I'm not telling you to transfer, I was just saying that your assumption people won't help you for free is wrong. Start your own group, tell people if they fail they will be removed and replaced, rinse and repeat until you have a winning team.

[Kyriea]

I'm not telling you to transfer, I was just saying that your assumption people won't help you for free is wrong. Start your own group, tell people if they fail they will be removed and replaced, rinse and repeat until you have a winning team.

"If they fail they will be replaced" - This is the mindset that is driving people to buy their wins. There are very few people willing to teach people. 1 mistake and you're out. I'm not saying everyone is like that however enough are like it. Admittedly people are incapable of winning and that's fine, if they really can't get it then you don't want to be held back and if they are under-geared then that's fine. However people need to understand that you can't just enter something like Titan for the first time and play flawlessly, even the best people can fail once or twice.

[Sephirah]

"If they fail they will be replaced" - This is the mindset that is driving people to buy their wins. There are very few people willing to teach people. 1 mistake and you're out. I'm not saying everyone is like that however enough are like it. Admittedly people are incapable of winning and that's fine, if they really can't get it then you don't want to be held back and if they are under-geared then that's fine. However people need to understand that you can't just enter something like Titan for the first time and play flawlessly, even the best people can fail once or twice.

I never said it was a 1 strike your out deal. I'll always explain the fight to anyone who isn't familiar, and callout things they should be avoiding. If after 3 or so attempts they still aren't getting it, sorry buddy, but you're out.

[Crica]

I never said it was a 1 strike your out deal. I'll always explain the fight to anyone who isn't familiar, and callout things they should be avoiding. If after 3 or so attempts they still aren't getting it, sorry buddy, but you're out.

if all i miss out on is having to play with players like you that use ppl till you get what you want, im fine with paying ppl for taking their time to help me out

im not missing out on anything at all

[Sephirah]

if all i miss out on is having to play with players like you that use ppl till you get what you want, im fine with paying ppl for taking their time to help me out

im not missing out on anything at all

Who said anything about using anyone? I'd love to see my group beat Titan HM WITHOUT me (tank). You sound like a casual player, I'm sorry that you want your relic so bad you're willing to pay for it, but relics are relics for a reason.

Titan is the current divider between dedicated, and casual players. If you're a casual player, guess what, you either need to step up your game, or be happy not having a relic, at least not now.

Yoshi-P has said several times that while they want the game to be accessible by everyone, they respect their "hard-core" players, and they will always have "exclusive" content, a peak at the top of the mountain to climb.

[Sephirah]

And this is main reason why people buy kills. No one gives others a chance to learn an encounter; mess up a few times results in getting kicked/get called names. And what does the person that got kicked learn? NOTHING.

If anti-titan kill buyers are willing to have patience and train people how to do the encounter...maybe it would not (apparently) be such a huge problem. But no; insto kicked, labeled a baddy, and never given a chance.

Why don't you read all my posts before jumping to conclusions?

I never said it was a 1 strike your out deal. I'll always explain the fight to anyone who isn't familiar, and callout things they should be avoiding. If after 3 or so attempts they still aren't getting it, sorry buddy, but you're out.

I'm all for helping people learn the fight, but what you need to understand is there is a limit. If we have a whole group trying to get relics, and I have explained the fight to you several times, called out what to avoid, and you continue to fail, then yes, you will get replaced. You can't just say "keep me in here forever because I'm learning".

And using that method of getting a kill this fellow listed is called; cycle players in and out until you get a team to carry you. Certainly cheaper route but in the end quite similar.

The only way they are similar is Titan ends up dead.

I fail to see your logic in comparing "hey you guys are overgeared and can do this easily, will you beat this for me if I give you 500k" and a group that tries over and over, replacing weak links when they're found until the entire team is capable. And somehow think they are the same.

Honestly logic like that just makes it sound like you're so ashamed of buying your run that you're convincing yourself that legitimate runs by not overgeared players are basically just them looking for 7 other people in relics to carry them and invite them individually, which is not the case. When everyone is doing their part, nobody is being "carried", unless you consider the entire party carrying itself, being carried.

[sasakusaku]

Why don't you read all my posts before jumping to conclusions?

Blah blah blah. 99% of titan runs being advertised on my server requires people who join to be experienced (ie. killed it multiple times) and geared in full dl + relic. The other 1% is groups selling the run.

On one hand, people say do the encounter and learn it! Right, agree. But on other hand if a player joins a group, fails a few times either to error, inexperience, or more than likely to lag then it's /kick.

To many hypocrites, so little time. If you are not willing to have patience and or teach people then feel free to stop complaining about carries. It's not like it has any effect on you what so ever anyways.

[Crica]

I'm not telling you to transfer, I was just saying that your assumption people won't help you for free is wrong. Start your own group, tell people if they fail they will be removed and replaced, rinse and repeat until you have a winning team.

lol... im not using ppl till i get help that can do it... ill just pay ppl for their time that CAN do it