Something about the incoming PvP that really disturbs me. The names. Fresh meat.

[Tomumu]

Greetings,

As some of you have already mentioned, the reason why we have elected to display the names of your opponents as "Fresh Meat" is to prevent harassment from occurring. We feel this is an important aspect to address to create a fun and comfortable environment for everyone to enjoy PvP.

Why do you insist on turning this into babby`s first MMO. Some of my fondest memories of WoW and other MMOs are when you see someone you`ve versed before in PVP, whether that`s in the world or/arena/battleground. Half the fun is trying to make a name for yourself. I was very excited about PVP (although wary of serverside lag etc) but this has really put a downer on it, I really hope that you reconsider this decision.

[Conkers]

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No different to PVE, go to the DPS sub-forum and there have been endless threads about bards, or the tank forum and threads about what is the point of warrior, when Paladin is better, etc

Same goes for builds, every MMO I have ever played involves cookie cutter builds, especially for raids, in that respect PvE is worse than PvP, there is usually far more freedom with PvP, because things like CC are actually useful, and you are far less likely to be told what build you must play than in a raid.

And again the same goes for abusing bugs, last MMO I played was GW2, it was full of people abusing bugs / exploits to avoid mobs or cheese the boss in dungeons.

Lastly in most MMOs it cuts both ways, PvP also suffers due to PvE, in many games it suffers a good deal more as tehy balance for raids first, then PvP second, but regardless, as far as I am aware in FF14 there will be an entirely separate set of skills for PvP, so it shouldn't be an issue.

[Alhanelem]

Greetings,

As some of you have already mentioned, the reason why we have elected to display the names of your opponents as "Fresh Meat" is to prevent harassment from occurring. We feel this is an important aspect to address to create a fun and comfortable environment for everyone to enjoy PvP.

I'd like to know if the bug where doing emotes on an opposing player reveals their name has been fixed.

[WintersMoondancer]

...to create a fun and comfortable environment for everyone to enjoy PvP.

lol, you do play this game right? Ever do dungeon runs? How is it a "fun and comfortable environment for everyone to enjoy" when playing anything in this game? It's not. The devs by now should have figured out that PvP will bring out the worse in people, not the best, just like the end game dungeon runs right now. "Fresh Meat" will not prevent harassment as the devs are hoping it will and players want to be able to gloat over beating certain players, not just classes/jobs.

[NakoVesh]

The responses to this thread illustrate exactly why SE has to go this far to put some sort of cap on the egotistical BS that surrounds PVP. If you want to be e-famous, get a tumblr and start posting out-of-focus hipster photographs of abandoned buildings.

[Gunblazer42]

I don't know if Fresh Meat is the way to go.

I mean...why not <Race> <Class>? I know we, RP-wise, wouldn't know the names of our opponents...but I'm sure we can all tell who's what class by their weapon, and obviously we can tell their race.

[Mychael]

The responses to this thread illustrate exactly why SE has to go this far to put some sort of cap on the egotistical BS that surrounds PVP. If you want to be e-famous, get a tumblr and start posting out-of-focus hipster photographs of abandoned buildings.

Your logic is flawless. We should all hide our fake names behind generic fake names so that we can avoid meeting other players in a multiplayer game, because we could all be hipsters and be photographers?

[Returnee]

*quietly rolls a new character named "Fresh Meat*

"I know it does, I've seen it. That's why the rest of me is just going to enjoy the show because we already know that I'm the one that beats you."

Problem solved, you're all welcome!

Though really, if it were optional to show or hide you name, it'd be great. Sometimes it's nice to be anonymous, like when you're just learning (or don't want to be bothered); and sometimes you want to be known, like when you're getting to be good and maybe want to make a name for yourself, so to speak.

Also, I have some concerns about the anonymity - visions of afkers in WoW battlegrounds come to mind, but now people will be yelling to "report Fresh Meat afk"... but maybe this won't be an issue, depending how pvp works in FFXIV.

[NakoVesh]

Your logic is flawless. We should all hide our fake names behind generic fake names so that we can avoid meeting other players in a multiplayer game, because we could all be hipsters and be photographers?

And your ability to be obtuse is flawless as well. If your idea of "meeting other players in a multiplayer game" equates to being able to see that you killed "Mylittle Pwny," then you're just further illustrating SE's policy on this.

[MStowastiqVahlshdeh]

I wonder is there a stadium type thing with chairs for spectators to watch the pvp? Benches like the amphitheater in Gridania but surrounding a stadium/coliseum like near the casino in Uldah. Its near the Pugilist's guild, the coliseum where I never see anyone fighting but npc's above are watching as if. [kind of off topic is it possible to get down to the floor of that coliseum where the place marks are for the fighters?]