This how i feel tanking as a Warrior^^

[Judge_Xero]

There aren't many reasons to choose war over pld. and that's part of the problem. like seriously, any idiot can play pld. it's not hard at all. in the hands of a truly skilled player paladin is an absolute beast.

Even in the right hands, a WAR feels awkward.

The first real encounter with frequent heavy hits is Titan post-heart phase. mountain buster is far more frequent than every 60 seconds.

For the first one I hit IB=> Infuriate. the second one I hit ToB=>SW. for the third I hit berserk+Bloodbath+vengeance+IR a bit before it happens, then pop conv+mantra as soon as it does.

in a nutshell: the big hits come much faster than once every 60 seconds. you can't afford to lose Wrath V.

Yes it looks like Mountain Buster is exactly 30 second intervals. So you would have to mix things up a little.
Stoneskin Tank + Virus Debuff on Titan etc.

Why not dump IB + Infuriate + IB on the first Mountain Rush. If you get an extra 1100 HP absorb off it - Your healer would need to heal 6k in 7.5 seconds to catch up, at which point you would be 6%-9% buffed again anyways.

Without any other other skills you can recover ~25% of a Mountain Rush with Inner Beast and the Maim/Story's Eye Buff/Debuff (unless you just completely neglect adding any STR) - that's on a 30 second interval.

Here's the thing though. Cadacus will hit you for over 2-3k as pld (so more as warrior) every 3-5 seconds, not every 60 or 120. You're looking at content like garu (which only has one phase where the tank is getting hit hard, and that's while the damage buff sister is up) and ifrit (which is... lol? its ifrit) and thinking "oh, well 60 seconds isn't so long."Then you get to titan whre mountain buster is about every 30 seconds (its mroe or less perfectly timed with sacred soil cool down, so your'e taking 3/4 hits without your 120 second mitigation. Also, titan normally hits you for as much or more than buffed garuda does, and then goes into stomps on top of all that. Once you start going into content actually designed for ilvl 70+ gaer, you'll find that the damage out put to the tank increases dramatically.

And even if we stick to easier content like garu, the only time I want to do garu is for mythic farm on mondays. In that case I only want to take in one tank, and really, I want that tank to be a paladin from a healer's persepctive. The pld has a powerful cd for each sister phase (though I'm probably only going to see one or two in a farm), has a much better iWin button, and is all around the safer choice. With only one tank healers have to cast more on dps, which means less gcds for the tank, and in all situations, a pld requires fewer gcds cus they reduce damage by 20% and you only buff healing by 15%. Also, if you look at it as a ehp question (such as lustrate as sch), sure, you have 5-10% more hp than the pld for my lustrate to hit, but... the pld will mitigate 20% of that return damage while my lustrate isn't buffed by your healing passive (near as I have been able to test).

Warrior just isn't viable for late game stuff, and it sucks. I wish it was. I play pld, but everyone should be able to play the class they love, and I know that one day pld will probably suffer a similar fate.

Bahamuts Coil sounds brutal regardless of what tank is used.

Most the vids I checked out both tanks take ~ 14k damage in 60s intervals +/-3k against Cadacus with some hits being 2-3k

[Onisake]

Why not dump IB + Infuriate + IB on the first Mountain Rush. If you get an extra 1100 HP absorb off it - Your healer would need to heal 6k in 7.5 seconds to catch up, at which point you would be 6%-9% buffed again anyways.

Outside of the 60 second interval you would have to improvise with mixing IR, Berserk, SW and IB together

It's far too risky to follow the first Mountainbuster with a double IB because he follows it up with stomps. your healer will soon begin spam healing the group, with Wrath V it makes the heals more effective on you. without it, they have to spend extra MP to get you near capped, and then go immediately into AoE heal spam. this is incredibly taxing on MP. Wrath V up throughout and only a single IB they can usually get away with a single C3 into the AoE spam heals. so the answer is, as always, you can't afford to lose your Wrath V.


you could do it after the second mountain buster, as the following moves are easily avoidable. however he only has 3 move rotations before he begins his rotation again with another mountain buster. essentially it leaves you woefully unprepared for the next big heal you need to receive. you're better off doing something else, than scrambling to rebuild wrath. he's still hitting you afterall. you're essentially making your healers burn extra MP right before another big AoE spam. that's why I save conv+mantra for the third mountain buster. it reduces the stress on them significantly, because i'm receiving ~35% extra healing on top of refreshing myself with bloodbath+berserk