Quote Originally Posted by Judge_Xero View Post
IMO being able to drop a 2k+ self heal every 60 seconds is pretty powerful. That's 50% damage mitigation on a 4k hit. With buffs you could reach 100% mitigation @ 120 second intervals. Definitely worth the loss of 15% increased healing for 20 seconds.
Here's the thing though. Cadacus will hit you for over 2-3k as pld (so more as warrior) every 3-5 seconds, not every 60 or 120. You're looking at content like garu (which only has one phase where the tank is getting hit hard, and that's while the damage buff sister is up) and ifrit (which is... lol? its ifrit) and thinking "oh, well 60 seconds isn't so long."Then you get to titan whre mountain buster is about every 30 seconds (its mroe or less perfectly timed with sacred soil cool down, so your'e taking 3/4 hits without your 120 second mitigation. Also, titan normally hits you for as much or more than buffed garuda does, and then goes into stomps on top of all that. Once you start going into content actually designed for ilvl 70+ gaer, you'll find that the damage out put to the tank increases dramatically.

And even if we stick to easier content like garu, the only time I want to do garu is for mythic farm on mondays. In that case I only want to take in one tank, and really, I want that tank to be a paladin from a healer's persepctive. The pld has a powerful cd for each sister phase (though I'm probably only going to see one or two in a farm), has a much better iWin button, and is all around the safer choice. With only one tank healers have to cast more on dps, which means less gcds for the tank, and in all situations, a pld requires fewer gcds cus they reduce damage by 20% and you only buff healing by 15%. Also, if you look at it as a ehp question (such as lustrate as sch), sure, you have 5-10% more hp than the pld for my lustrate to hit, but... the pld will mitigate 20% of that return damage while my lustrate isn't buffed by your healing passive (near as I have been able to test).

Warrior just isn't viable for late game stuff, and it sucks. I wish it was. I play pld, but everyone should be able to play the class they love, and I know that one day pld will probably suffer a similar fate.