Shield Swipe, is it even on your bar anymore?

[Enkidoh]

I still say it should be off the GCD like spirits within and circle of scorn.

And then SE would give it a long natural cooldown instead like those abilities to compensate - and as you can only use it anyway after blocking an attack with your shield, it would forever be getting wasted simply because the block parameter would be satisfied but the ability itself would still be on cooldown. Really though, I'm happy how it is, and yes, it's very useful when you can use it.

[Duelle]

And then SE would give it a long natural cooldown instead like those abilities to compensate

A long cooldown wouldn't make much sense seeing that it's nowhere near the potency of Spirits Within, its utility is less pronounced (pacification is subject to diminishing returns), and spamming it is not that useful due to only having Shield Oath's threat modifier to go on without the benefit of being an extra attack to weave in (the way Spirits and Circle of Scorn are). If asked to put a cooldown on it, I'd go for something like 6-12 seconds. 15 seconds at the most. Personally I'd go with no cooldown simply because shield blocks on their own act as a soft cooldown on the ability.

it would forever be getting wasted simply because the block parameter would be satisfied but the ability itself would still be on cooldown. Really though, I'm happy how it is, and yes, it's very useful when you can use it.

Shield Swipe's icon becomes functional within 5 seconds of the block itself happening, so it is already getting wasted outside of moments where your block and GCD coincide with something like a Dullahan's Iron Justice attack.

[Steeled]

So, you admit that is extra-powerful and the highest stand-alone dps ability available to you, but then you want it to be MORE powerful by taking it off the GCD and not forcing you to consider whether or not its worth using at the time? I know I might seem like a contrarian but, jeeze, the sense of Pally entitlement is ridiculous around here! With how great our mitigation is, and how faceroll our tanking abilities are, we should be happy we get anything 1/2 as good as CoS, SW, Shield Swipe, or Shield Bash.

The timing of availability is only slightly longer than the GCD making it annoying to use when it is available.

That being said - to answer the OP, I have it off my bar because I play on PS3. At lvl 50 I find the 16 button bar very very constricting, and I had to make some comprises. I had it on my bar until level 46 or so though.

I use an xbox controller on PC, and feel the same way.

Shield Swipe does not have a stun/interrupt effect, that is Shield Bash.

It requires luck and timing but if the mob is not immune to Pacification (most bosses are), you can use the effect when a red is dropped and the red won't happen when it should. I've also "interrupted" that doom aura with Shield Swipe.

And then SE would give it a long natural cooldown instead like those abilities to compensate - and as you can only use it anyway after blocking an attack with your shield, it would forever be getting wasted simply because the block parameter would be satisfied but the ability itself would still be on cooldown. Really though, I'm happy how it is, and yes, it's very useful when you can use it.

I'd be happy with it on a 5,10,15 second cooldown off the GCD. I'd bury it in my RoHalone macro probably.

[Alpheus]

It requires luck and timing but if the mob is not immune to Pacification (most bosses are), you can use the effect when a red is dropped and the red won't happen when it should. I've also "interrupted" that doom aura with Shield Swipe.

What this guy said. It's nice for that but again with Boss Immunities =( doesn't see much use.

[PessimiStick]

It requires luck and timing but if the mob is not immune to Pacification (most bosses are), you can use the effect when a red is dropped and the red won't happen when it should. I've also "interrupted" that doom aura with Shield Swipe.

I have literally never seen the pacification cancel a cast that was already in progress. It prevents *new* casts, but if it can act like an interrupt, it seems to be incredibly rare.

[Steeled]

I have literally never seen the pacification cancel a cast that was already in progress. It prevents *new* casts, but if it can act like an interrupt, it seems to be incredibly rare.

By cast, do you mean spell or ability? I've seen it interrupt plenty of abilities, but typically only on trash. Almost every boss is rightfully immune to it.

[PessimiStick]

By cast, do you mean spell or ability? I've seen it interrupt plenty of abilities, but typically only on trash. Almost every boss is rightfully immune to it.

I've never seen it cancel an ability or spell that was already being cast. I only really paid attention to it when soloing stuff, but the cast bars always complete if I pacify during the cast.

[Wyndam]

I've never seen it cancel an ability or spell that was already being cast. I only really paid attention to it when soloing stuff, but the cast bars always complete if I pacify during the cast.

I would swear up and down that I've interrupted casts with it. I do know that, because of latency, sometimes interrupts go off while the cast bar is still ticking up and it gives the appearance that you should have gotten the interrupt successfully but didn't. That's especially tricky if you're trying to squeak in the shield swipe after having just used another ability when the mob started casting.

[Alpheus]

I've never seen it cancel an ability or spell that was already being cast. I only really paid attention to it when soloing stuff, but the cast bars always complete if I pacify during the cast.

Basically imagine if Silence had the stupid requirement of being active at the end of a cast and that's pretty much how pacification works. The debuff ticks has to mesh with the cast or ability resolving for it to cockblock any incoming attacks.

[TommySmiles]

I have literally never seen the pacification cancel a cast that was already in progress. It prevents *new* casts, but if it can act like an interrupt, it seems to be incredibly rare.

Not spell casts but weaponskills. If you pacify them before their cast bar is complete, the weaponskill will effectively cancel.