FFXIV Bitter Sweet

[Soukyuu]

That confirms also what I said in the OP, which is its a terrible idea to lump casuals with Elite.

I don't see how you can avoid that though. DF is meant to be casual, so if they're such an elite, why are they using it? I have to clarify I'm talking about Dzemael and Vale mostly, so it's not a story dungeon you have to clear to continue with the game. All "elite" players used to be newbies at some point, so even if you separate into "casual" and "elite" player servers, it won't solve the issue.

[MistressAthena]

I don't see how you can avoid that though. DF is meant to be casual, so if they're such an elite, why are they using it? I have to clarify I'm talking about Dzemael and Vale mostly, so it's not a story dungeon you have to clear to continue with the game. All "elite" players used to be newbies at some point, so even if you separate into "casual" and "elite" player servers, it won't solve the issue.

I mean like I'm in the game right now, this is the first message I see spammed: GarudaHM Looking for members. healertankx2, BRD (experienced and decently geared please ) ... Now if I wanted to jump in, I couldn't if I hadn't done HM before. I'd have to sit and wait for duty finder for god knows how long.

I'm twisted on this though, while I know why they do it, they don't want to waste their time on a potentially completely fail player, but on the flip side if the game was more balanced out and focused on levels more we wouldn't be running into this problem at 50.

[ApolloGenX]

I don't see how you can avoid that though. DF is meant to be casual, so if they're such an elite, why are they using it? I have to clarify I'm talking about Dzemael and Vale mostly, so it's not a story dungeon you have to clear to continue with the game. All "elite" players used to be newbies at some point, so even if you separate into "casual" and "elite" player servers, it won't solve the issue.

Most "elite" wannabes are the ones screaming requirements for knowing the strategy and likely gear that is well beyond the dungeon. They aren't elite, they are either scrubs wanting to be carried, or scrubs hidden under gear. Either way, don't bother. People that make a crazy to-do about gear are usually lame-os that have no skills. There is very little you can't do in the current game because of gear limitations.