FFXIV Bitter Sweet

[Amiantos]

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I agree partially. I always tell first timers and expect wipes the first couple. After the third I start to get annoyed and if they still haven't gotten it by the 6th wipe I apologize and leave as I don't want to waste 2 hours mashing my face into a boss only to die over and over. It's a complicated balance I feel that does need to be addressed.

[Soukyuu]

I agree partially. I always tell first timers and expect wipes the first couple. After the third I start to get annoyed and if they still haven't gotten it by the 6th wipe I apologize and leave as I don't want to waste 2 hours mashing my face into a boss only to die over and over. It's a complicated balance I feel that does need to be addressed.

I don't have a problem with that, my point is that they don't even try to play with new players, the just silently turn and leave. Last time that happened, we got another tank, cleared the dungeon with 0 wipes and 3 tank pieces dropped. Too many instantly think that new players = wipefest.