Is this bannable? I got reported for...

[Leiloni]

I Ignore tells all the time, I dont expect to get banned for it.

This is a bad idea. If you've been reported for botting a GM will send you a tell to see if you're at the computer. If you don't respond, they will likely ban you for it. It's in the ToS you signed.

http://support.na.square-enix.com/fa...6&id=5382&la=1
Under the section titled "Activities that destroy game balance":

Additionally, during the course of an absentee play investigation, players may be requested to respond to or comply with a GMs instruction. Failure to do so is consider a violation and may result in disciplinary action being taken against the account.

I added the bold in myself since so many people in this thread are asking about it. Failure to respond to a tell from a GM is a violation.

And I can tell you they DO whisper you if you look like you're botting. A friend of mine has been asked 3 times while leveling crafting and since he's always at the computer he is able to respond and they leave him alone. If you're not paying attention, you may get yourself in trouble.

[Artamie]

I fish without looking at the screen because my controller vibrates and tells me when to reel the fish in but I've never found a need to really ask if I could get banned for it. I don't think there should be a need to fear if you're really just playing without looking but one should never turn off the sounds while doing so. If the BGM bugs you then turn it off in the sound options. Bright lights bother you? Turn off your monitor/TV but stick some speakers in it. But ALWAYS keep the tell chime on in case someone does find you fishy, no pun intended.

This is especially true if you're monopolizing monsters that are few in number but drop items high in demand like karakul for fleece. How someone manages to do something like slaying monsters repeatedly while "blind" if they're not utilizing some kind of sound cue from the game is beyond me and if they're using sound cues then turning on the chimes should be no big deal.

[Aenarion]

So you want me to fish while looking at the screen all time?

I just lay down and relax listening to the soothing sound and pressing throw or hook depending on sound.

Sorry, you can only fish the way it was intended, sitting in the intended posture, using the intended hotbar setup, with your monitor and pc or ps3 arranged in the intended direction, otherwise you will automatically become the Evil Bot Overlord and shall be banned forever.

[jcw005]

You know, seeing this thread makes me wonder something. If I were a botter, and came back to my computer to realize I'd been caught by other people, wouldn't it be smart to go onto the forums and make a post about how I'm not a botter - despite all evidence to the contrary - to make myself seem more legitimate?

[Pseudopsia]

You know, seeing this thread makes me wonder something. If I were a botter, and came back to my computer to realize I'd been caught by other people, wouldn't it be smart to go onto the forums and make a post about how I'm not a botter - despite all evidence to the contrary - to make myself seem more legitimate?

I'm sure it's coming once SE starts taking action. I seen it in other games.

[Enkrateia]

Hello!

This thread was brought to my attention from the community team so that a response could be provided from the Game Master perspective.

If a customer is reported for absentee play, we will investigate them for that violation. Our investigations use various means to determine if a customer is attending to the game or using some means of automating gameplay so they are able to play the game while away from the computer. We can definitely understand the concerns that may be raised about inaccurate investigations, which is why we use several different means of determining absentee play. Provided you are not away from the computer and able to respond to a GM if necessary, then it is highly unlikely that it would be determined that you are guilty of an absentee play violation.

In terms of account actions, absentee play is considered equivalent to third party program use, which requires a suspensions for a first offense. Prior violations may cause this to result in the termination of the account, depending on the results of an account review.

I hope this provided a bit more insight into how GMs handle these reports and investigations. I have tried to stay away from speaking in complete absolutes about specific situations, since each situation is different and requires an actual investigation to determine the outcome.

LGM Enkrateia

[VitoScaletta]

I love when SE sends out mixed signals, after 10 years of XI I learned basically this about their ToS 'gray areas'.
Automation is OK, as long as you are NOT away and it does NOT involve the use of 3rd party programs.

I was one of the people who was given a G series logitech macro keyboard for one of SE's promotions in the XI days. That had a lot of people confused.

Hello!

This thread was brought to my attention from the community team so that a response could be provided from the Game Master perspec-

Told ya..its that whole 'away' part that really grinds SE's gears.

[Leowilde]

Eh, but... What then about that ability for crafters that let you automatically craft a set number of an item? And if you leave the computer while this goes on? Okokok I guess the answer kinda gives itself here, since this is an actual ability, but still... Macros are ingame as well, so I'm just curious.

[coffeepotz]

So, if someone AFKs using one of their "methods" and a GM contacts them they will be reprimanded? Hope they know that.

[Demlix]

Eh, but... What then about that ability for crafters that let you automatically craft a set number of an item? And if you leave the computer while this goes on? Okokok I guess the answer kinda gives itself here, since this is an actual ability, but still... Macros are ingame as well, so I'm just curious.

Quick synthesis gives a fraction of the exp as regular crafting and using all your abilities each time. Sure you can use an in-game macro for crafting, but you can't macro it to make multiple items, as you still need to click the synthesis button, then use the macro to run through the steps for that one item.

Third party macro however, would allow a player to automate that whole process, and even have it set to repeat. So the character would continuously make high exp gain items without human interaction for possibly hours. This is what SE has an issue with...