Is this bannable? I got reported for...

[AsakuraVN]

Some of you seem to mistakenly think SE has to 'prove' something in order to terminate your account.

I didn't mean that SE has to prove anything, I meant the players who reported him can't prove to the GMs that he was botting. So to avoid Reporting abuse, the GMs still have to check manually before banning

Unless you come onto the forums and tell them you're doing it.

Nope, you may get on to the GMs flag list, but until they caught you red-handed, they can't really based soly on your forum posts...

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[Eekiki]

Nothing bannable about using in-game macros. There's no rule that says you HAVE to be looking at your screen when you play.

Honestly, if people can't outpull you when you aren't even paying attention, they have no one to blame but themselves.

[Noata]

What hes doing isnt unattended play, it's blind play.

The Macro's hes using are ingame macro. They dont put anything in the chat log like the above person said.

This is just a target macro he has bound, for example, to L2+X followed by a Weaponskill Macro on L2 + 0

All he has to to is alternate these 2 key presses and he can target mobs and fight them without looking at his screen. This is no different that if he were looking at his screen and just ignoring anyone.

It isn't bannable, you havent used any third party programs, you were just ignorant of the players around you and that is no crime.

I Ignore tells all the time, I dont expect to get banned for it.

Definition, Unattended - not noticed or dealt with.

you were just ignorant of the players around you and that is no crime.

If unattended play is against TOS, he was doing it! I am not saying ban hammer him, but that is breaking the rules... so I guess you could say it is a crime lol.
you can spin words around it all you want, but in Law they use definitions not objective viewpoints. your statement just further clarified the meeting of the definition of unattended. by all means I would slap him on the wrist, but by no means was it not wrong

[Eekiki]

Definition, Unattended - not noticed or dealt with.

Who's definition is that? Yours or SE's?

If unattended play is against TOS, he was doing it! I am not saying ban hammer him, but that is breaking the rules... so I guess you could say it is a crime lol.
you can spin words around it all you want, but in Law they use definitions not objective viewpoints. your statement just further clarified the meeting of the definition of unattended. by all means I would slap him on the wrist, but by no means was it not wrong

This is FFXIV, not the real world. He was not engaging in unattended play. He was pushing the buttons on his controller, which made his character do things. If his character was doing stuff without him pushing any buttons, THAT'S unattended play.

[Cairdeas]

The Definition of Unattended Play is setting up a macro that runs on its own so that you do not input with the software. Because he is using in game macros that require him to press the buttons on his controller or keyboard it is not Unattended, even if he is not watching the screen.

[Jynx]

Unatended or not, if your playing the game without actually watching/playing the game don't be suprised when you get some kickback from it (Even if it comes in the form of a ban)

[fixitman]

Unattended play is no longer covered anywhere in any of the user agreements. I was corrected on that a couple weeks ago, and then verified it myself. It used to be there, but SE removed it for some reason.

OP stated the use of a "controller macro", which sounds like a macro system built in to the controller. Such a system is indeed using automation software, which is against the TOS.

Regardless, if you aren't actively controlling your character while it continues to performing tasks that you initiated, you deserve to be suspended. You are making significant progress without putting any appreciable effort into it, which is the heart of cheating. The in-game macro system is limited for this very reason.

EDIT: If you are just not watching the screen, and not spamming chat, and not using anything except what the game provides.... it is not bannable. It is quite irresponsible, but not against any rules.

[Noata]

Really guys,s your going to make such a big deal out of being wrong... ok Lets bring up definitions and their locations.


Free Dictionary Definition: Unattended - Not being attended to, looked after, or watched

Collins English Dictionary: Unattended -
adjective

not looked after or cared for
unaccompanied or alone
not listened to

Translations for 'unattended'

British English: unattendedPronunciation for unattended When people or things are left unattended, they are not being watched or looked after.Never leave young children unattended near any pool or water tank.

Dictionary.com: unattended - (ˌʌnəˈtɛndɪd)

— adj
1. not looked after or cared for
2. unaccompanied or alone
3. not listened to

Cambridge Dictionaries online.
unattended
adjective [not gradable]

/ˌʌn·əˈten·dɪd/
Definition
› not being watched or taken care of:

You guys are wrong... There is the Definition of unattended, would you like me to get the definition of play? then you can combine them and see where he was breaking the rules.... honestly arguing the worlds definition of a word on a forum.

If unattended play is against TOS, he was doing it!

Like I said, if its against TOS he was doing it

[svann]

If a gm teleports you away to gm jail, and your macro keeps going even with no targets, and you dont respond to gm tells then you may be banned for it. Its questionable whether they are actually doing this yet, but I guarantee you that it is done in other games and will be done here too.
edit: and it doesnt matter what the armchair lawyers tell you - they dont need legal proof of guilt to ban anyone.

[Pseudopsia]

Not looking at your screen poses a big problem.

E.g. If a GM issues warnings or moved you to a different zone. If you keep doing the same actions with no response you're no different then a bot. So you may get banned.