The Monk Temple

[enil]

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FFXIV will count DoTs full duration damage even if the mob dies early. Your summoner is probably getting a lot of non-existant damge from FFXIVAPP this way.
Trash is really important but if you care, you should get your tank/healer to chain pull. Monk AoE is not that bad, we may not have burst but Rockbreaker is probably the most GCD/resource effecient AoE attack available, use this when clearing trash to maximise dps. Doing AK without any downtime keeps your GL uptime high and lets you finish the dungeon much quicker.
You said yourself you beat SMN on the last boss, not sure what you want to complain about - if Monk was buffed further wouldn't this be more unfair for other classes?

In all 3 boss fights in AK, the only time GL should drop is if you get bombed by the last boss, every class loses lots of damage doing this anyway it's not unique to us.

[Allyrion]

I don't think SE needs to balance difficulty. It seems monks have proven they can perform, even with movement fights.
There's always going to be classes that are easier to play or harder, and that's because people like different playstyles.
I have a BLM at 50, but I've decided to drop it for the monk. Why? Because it's easy. I like having a lot of things to manage, and monk combat actually matched the type of classes I would usually play.

Some people like being able to do optimal damage all the time and have tons of burst. I've enjoyed it too on occasion. But some people don't.
Monks should be a manual job, they're freaking monks.

SE needs to balance the realistic damage of the classes, but NOT the difficulty of performing that. Realistic means that dropping GL3 is accounted for in balance. It just doesn't need to be easy to get there.
Does that mean you need to be OP if performed perfectly? No. We should do more damage on a tank and spank, but we don't need to do more damage on all fights if we're on top of our game everytime. Challenge can be its own reward. There's nothing wrong with that.

[ilJumperMT]

I'm very disappointed with monk's output power... Lets see why:

• Need to build GL3 at every fight so that's at least 12 seconds of no optimum damage
• Perfect balance has a 5 3 minutes cool down so don't use it as an excuse
• In a dungeon, moving from one location to another would probably make you lose GL3 (thus overall lower DPS)
• HP!, Monks always had pride with their enormous HP! I want my HP to be over NINE THOUSAAAAND
• Always need to be moving between back and flank (harder to do with some mobs like demon wall, etc...)
• We have to abide by our rotation in order to keep GL3 up
• Even if we do everything perfectly, other classes EASILY out damage us...

I did AK yesterday with my brothers, me being a monk, one of them being a summoner... I averaged around 360k damage (130 DPS) while he did around 420k damage (160 DPS) not to mention that his summons each did around 40 DPS extra!
I might have done slightly more damage to the final boss but still not satisfied.
I had avengers HQ equipped with some other darklight gear and lv55~60 items.

While I only did around (130) DPS in AK, I could easily strike 200+ DPS on striking dummy in dragonhead. I use FFXIV-APP parser (which is very cool btw). But in real situation such as dungeons where you have to rebuild GL3 every time and not a lot of AoE attacks, monk is inferior. I'm a die hard MONK since FF1, I love the job, but the one in XIV does not live to rep

I know a lot might say he is good for single boss fights (but even with that he keeps rebuilding GL3 from time to time when a boss does a special move), but that's about it =\

You wanna top FFXIV App Parsers 100% Of the time? Spam ToD and Fracture ONLY. Yep that how reliable it is.

Here's a comparison of Monk's Mythology gear vs. Allagan gear from Coil.

http://i.imgur.com/4FFBsD3.jpg

Holy Moogle! Mythology gear sucks so much! Crit Rate >>> Skill Speed

[Vydos]

I finally got to seriously using my monk for the first time yesterday. And it was for an Ifrit(hard) run. I have to say that I love the job and how it's played. But I agree that keeping GL up during most boss fights can be a real issue. As they all warp/jump during the fight, making monks basically start from scratch.

I personally think they should create a new active ability. Something like:

Meditate: - Locks the timer on monk related buffs/stance until the next strike. Effect of meditate last for x amount of seconds (Disengages auto-attack like ARC/BRD bind)

Basically something that stops our timers while we're not attacking. Losing GL during battle due to our carelessnes should be acceptable but not because a mob is warping/jumping around. Or because we need to dodge things. Obviously the effect should only last for a few seconds, long enough for a primal warp/jump. But not long enough that it can be abused and that we can run around with GL forever.

[cfStatic]

You rotation is bad mmkay? Dragon Kick and Demolish lasts 3 rotations if you are using only monk skills.

I never said it was good, did I? It's a lazy rotation, but it's not vastly inferior to switching around for BS twice, or throwing in Impulse Drive(which is a whole other thing..) or anything else. I said that with that rotation I parse those numbers, to someone who was complaining that we're "weak" or somehow a lesser DPS class compared to others. Come at me.

Also, while throwing in Fracture every second rotation, with a 2 second GCD, it's ~14 seconds when you get back around to DK. DK lasts 15 seconds.

[Ephier]

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Meditate: - Locks the timer on monk related buffs/stance until the next strike. Effect of meditate last for x amount of seconds (Disengages auto-attack like ARC/BRD bind) snip.

I have seen a lot of ideas for buffing monk around the forums, from changing GL buff timer, to changing our shoulder tackle to no stun and GL refresh. But your idea is HANDS DOWN, the best I have seen yet. I really hope you keep advocating for this and get other people to advocate for it as well. That skill would single handedly fix ALL monk problems.

[Akumara]

I have seen a lot of ideas for buffing monk around the forums, from changing GL buff timer, to changing our shoulder tackle to no stun and GL refresh. But your idea is HANDS DOWN, the best I have seen yet. I really hope you keep advocating for this and get other people to advocate for it as well. That skill would single handedly fix ALL monk problems.

But how does this fix taking 9 globals to get to GL3 and actually being competitive in DPS?

[xRitzx]

But how does this fix taking 9 globals to get to GL3 and actually being competitive in DPS?

You only have to build GL3 one time in a boss fight instead of a dozen or whatever because the boss becomes invincible or you have to dodge AOEs.

[Vydos]

But how does this fix taking 9 globals to get to GL3 and actually being competitive in DPS?

Honestly, I find this a good thing to have as a monk. We have less chances to instantly pull hate away from the tank by going all in from the start. The issue that most people seem to have is simply that we keep losing our GL and other buffs due to boss mechanics. Other classes deal lots of damage due to off-GCD buffs that buffs their damage.

While monks have a constant buff on us. But it keeps being resetted which is more annoying than working to GL3 at the start. Which honestly doesn't take that long.

[Ephier]

But how does this fix taking 9 globals to get to GL3 and actually being competitive in DPS?

There's nothing wrong with the build up DPS, I like the acceleration feel I get when playing monk. Also, you can reduce the 9 GCD's down to 3 if you use perfect balance, and depending on how this meditate skill would be balanced, you shouldn't have to build your GL stacks back up again.