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    Adamaria Sebastian
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    My rotation was: Touch of Death(always keep it up) -> Bootshine ->Twin Snakes -> Snap Punch -> Bootshine -> True Strike -> Snap Punch. Rinse and repeat when twin snakes buff goes down. I feel this was pretty much how I would use the skills given at lvl 19
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zessiru View Post
    My rotation was: Touch of Death(always keep it up) -> Bootshine ->Twin Snakes -> Snap Punch -> Bootshine -> True Strike -> Snap Punch. Rinse and repeat when twin snakes buff goes down. I feel this was pretty much how I would use the skills given at lvl 19
    ^ this.

    Up to level 35 it was essentially the same, but add in Demolish in place of first snap punch. Touch of death > Bootshine > twin snakes > demolish > bootshine > true strike > snap punch...repeat
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    Liringlas Laf
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Once you have all your Dots up (Fracture from MRD, Demolish and Touch of Death), throwing in 2 Impulse Drives (LNC level 6 a 180 potency attack from behind) after a demolish or snap punch increases your damage by 1 full 180 potency per rotation and still allows you to maintain your stacks and damage buffs. True strike is useless and it makes the rotation much simpler.
    ToD > Fracture > Boot > Twin > Demo > Boot > Twin (to maintain the damage buff for the impulse drives)> snap > 2x impulse> Boot > Twin > Demo > 2x impulse > Boot > Twin > Snap > 2x Impulse > ToD > Fracture REPEAT.

    Using this instead of True strike not only gives you an extra swing at them but allows you to reapply your damage debuff each round instead of every second round making it easier to maintain.
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    Mirri Weatherlight
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liri View Post
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    You can actually fit in 3 impulses at lvl 50 with just minimal speed skill. Replace Bootshine with DK at lvl 50. Couple of problems though.

    High TP cost.
    Risky. If you are slightly late on any of your skills you will need to cut the third impulse or GL will drop.
    If you can't get into position for impulse you lose alot of damage (80 potency for missing back attack).

    I've been playing around with it and and it's executable, it's only about a 30~ potency gain on a standard Boot/True/Snap combo - but you also lose a chance to cast Demolish. It's a slight DPS loss if you need to wait for your next combination to cast it.

    You shouldn't really comment on level 50 rotations before getting to that point.
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    Rhaine Faithslight
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liri View Post
    Snip.
    All im seeing is maximizing damage over a short duration, is this ever practical in fights where high dps is a requirement? i.e. boss fights which are long and very likely involve TP issues with this rotation.

    And i can tell you before i even bother trying it that no, it isnt practical.

    Everytime i see people adding fracture (not so bad) but also impulse drive.... i cant stop thinking why you would do this, it only makes sense if TP didnt exist. The only times this isnt an issue is with trash mobs.... and they are trash anyway.

    And from what i understand the dps increase isnt that big, ontop of making the class overly complicated and giving zero breathing room.
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    Last edited by Rhained; 10-02-2013 at 08:00 AM.

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    Berthom Sur
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vensaval View Post
    Bootshine -> True Strike -> Snap Punch -> Bootshine -> Twin Snakes (buff runs out usually right before using it again) -> Snap Punch (both DoTs are still going) -> Bootshine -> True Strike
    Hi Monks. I just got to level 20 Pugilist. I'm having a great time so far, but I'm finding things a bit disorientating coming off Bard.

    Here's the issue: Bard skills are on two different cooldown wheels, so you can 'weave' buffs between attacks. In an ideal situation, you can continuously activate skills without any cooldown at all - for one or two cycles, at least. E.g. Attack > Buff > DoT > Attack > Buff > DoT etc. etc.

    I've been trying to set my skills up like a Bard (so it's more natural). However, everything on Pugilist seems to have the same cooldown (e.g. Bootshine, Twin Snakes, Snap Punch, True Strike), so I'm always waiting for something to come around. I managed to improve the situation by adding in some of the Archer buffs but I can't seem to keep the rotation moving quickly.

    I'm guessing by Vensaval's sequence that this isn't really an issue but is it ever possible to get a seamless rotation? Do I even need to?

    Thanks
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    Supply Demand
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mezolitik View Post
    ....but is it ever possible to get a seamless rotation? Do I even need to?

    Thanks
    In burst phases at level 50 you will be able to do things like Bootshine>Internal Relase>True Strike>Steel Peaks>Snap Punch>Howling Fist>Dragon Kick, but in your normal rotation you will basically just be operating on the GCD.

    Do not worry though, because when you get Greased Lightening III its going to take you a few weeks to get used to how quickly you have to make decisions regarding what buffs, debuffs and DoTs to use to make sure everything is ticking at max capacity at all times, and the GCD moves quick like a bunny.

    Stick with it, MNK is one of the fastest-paced and brain-draining classes to play if you are looking to be #1 on DPS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ehayte View Post
    In burst phases at level 50 you will be able to do things like Bootshine>Internal Relase>True Strike>Steel Peaks>Snap Punch>Howling Fist>Dragon Kick, but in your normal rotation you will basically just be operating on the GCD.

    Do not worry though, because when you get Greased Lightening III its going to take you a few weeks to get used to how quickly you have to make decisions regarding what buffs, debuffs and DoTs to use to make sure everything is ticking at max capacity at all times, and the GCD moves quick like a bunny.

    Stick with it, MNK is one of the fastest-paced and brain-draining classes to play if you are looking to be #1 on DPS.
    Awesome. Thank you

    I'll definitely stick with it. I'm enjoying it so far. I think some of the skills cross-over into Bard, so that'll be useful as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mezolitik View Post
    I think some of the skills cross-over into Bard, so that'll be useful as well.
    You share the LNC cross classes. BFB and Invigorate being most prominent for monks.
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    Temis Altera
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    Played quite a few classes in the beta and by far, pugilist/monk is the most fluid and striking, and of course the most fun to play
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