The Monk Temple

[Valsh]

I did that. I'm not 50, but the ratios shouldn't be *too* different.
Demolish did roughly 50% more damage than snap punch when both were at GL2.
SP = 123
Demolish = 185

It's the only one I felt like testing. I'm sure ToD does more. Not sure about Fracture. Might test later.

EDIT: Fracture hit in the 90's overall. Fairly low. I'll take it out until more serious theorycrafting happens and we can see where they stand for sure.

The damage difference between demolish and snap punch should not be that large, it's likely that a few of your demolish ticks were crits.

Considering that Demolish doesn't gain from Dragon Kick's debuff(Correct me if i'm wrong) then the potency difference between snap punch and a full demolish should be a whopping "2".

Edit: "42" - I always think 18/3 is 5 for some reason. Bad brain is bad.

[kataly]

Considering that Demolish doesn't gain from Dragon Kick's debuff(Correct me if i'm wrong) then the potency difference between snap punch and a full demolish should be a whopping "2".

Can someone confirm? If this is true, this has huge implications for Monk play.

[Allyrion]

The damage difference between demolish and snap punch should not be that large, it's likely that a few of your demolish ticks were crits.

Considering that Demolish doesn't gain from Dragon Kick's debuff(Correct me if i'm wrong) then the potency difference between snap punch and a full demolish should be a whopping "2".

Only one was seemingly a crit, hitting for 45. There were six ticks, all between 28-32 (other than the last one which was 45). I averaged the damage.

Edit: I'd love if people all add their own tests so we can put this to rest.

[Rapiso]

The damage difference between demolish and snap punch should not be that large, it's likely that a few of your demolish ticks were crits.

Considering that Demolish doesn't gain from Dragon Kick's debuff(Correct me if i'm wrong) then the potency difference between snap punch and a full demolish should be a whopping "2".

42*

Can someone confirm? If this is true, this has huge implications for Monk play.

That's how it's work

[kataly]

That's how it's work

...How do you know? Does this mean that Demolish is useless?

[Valsh]

...How do you know? Does this mean that Demolish is useless?

Even without dragon kick debuff it should still be more potency than Snap Punch assuming it gets to run for the full duration.

[Rapiso]

...How do you know? Does this mean that Demolish is useless?

Dummies, no.

[enil]

Dummies, no.

Are Dummies an ideal test case?
I don't know how it works in FFXIV but does defence work exactly the same vs DoTs and DD?

[Almalexia]

A DoT is basically an X potency WS (where X is the potency of the DoT) that occurs every 3 seconds. Calculations for DoT damage are exactly the same as direct damage.